Panasonic DMC FZ20 or Canon S3 IS?

Discussion in 'Panasonic Lumix' started by Celcius, Jul 13, 2006.

  1. Celcius

    Celcius Guest

    Hi everyone!
    My friend is considering either models.
    Which one would be the best re. ease of use and results?
    Thanks
    Marcel
    PS I mistakingly posted the same message in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
     
    Celcius, Jul 13, 2006
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  2. Well, rec.photo.digital.zlr would be the most appropriate newsgroup!

    The Panasonic FZ20 is an older model than the Canon S3 IS, the more recent
    Panasonic models are FZ7 and FZ30 (smaller and larger cameras). If ease
    of use is an issue, try the cameras in a photo shop. I tried the earlier
    Canon S2 and rejected it in favour of the lighter and easier to handle
    Panasonic FZ5. The Panasonics have a better lens than the Canon, but the
    Canon has a swivel LCD viewfinder. The Panasonic tends to have a sharper
    image by default, but therefore shows more noise.

    My wife has the Panasonic FZ20 and I have the Panasonic FZ5. We have both
    been very pleased with the results.

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Jul 13, 2006
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  3. Celcius

    Celcius Guest

    David,

    Thank you for your prompt response.
    I had advised my friend against the Panasonic, because I had heard in this
    or other newsgroup that it was noisy. Not that DPReview is necessarily
    perfect, but although they evaluate the Panasonic as Highly recommended,
    they also point out that there is "Visible noise at ISOs above 100".
    I decided to seek advice on his behalf and to relay the answers so that he
    can make a good choice. He tends toward the Panasonic.

    Best regards,

    Marcel
     
    Celcius, Jul 13, 2006
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  4. Celcius wrote:
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    Marcel,

    All cameras produce noise, but some produce more than others! The default
    settings on the Panasonic produce sharper images, and this probably
    contributes towards the slightly greater visible noise. However, I would
    urge caution because:

    - the noise may only be visible when the image is zoomed to 1:1
    magnification on the display - hardly a realistic viewing scenario for
    most people.

    - when the image is printed at normal size, the noise may not be visible.

    - a little noise can sometimes add character to a photo, but there is a
    fashion today for completely noise-free images.

    So see if your friend finds the noise on the Panasonic objectionable or
    not when the camera is used in his particular viewing circumstances.
    Print out some of the sample images, if prints are what your friend
    normally uses. Do the same for the Canon. Having said that, for daylight
    I would normally use the camera at ISO 100, so that the noise does not
    become objectionable to me. And I do the same with my other small-sensor
    cameras!

    To me, those cameras are sufficiently different that image noise would
    only be a small factor in the decision.

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Jul 13, 2006
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  5. Celcius

    Monkee Guest

    I would second the Panasonic.... we have both cameras where I work as well
    as the older Canon S2 IS.....

    The Panasonic results taken at the same time and locations always look
    better and more detailed than the Canon.... from a personal point of view
    the Panasonic is nicer to use as well but that is just personal
    preference....

    Noise really has not been a problem and a quick look through sample images
    from a range of sites should back that up.
     
    Monkee, Jul 13, 2006
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  6. Forty years ago we had the same arguments over "grain" in our then film
    cameras.

    We learnt to handle it and live with it.

    Nothing changes.

    Dennis.
    Panasonic FZ20 and Nikon F3.
     
    Dennis Pogson, Jul 14, 2006
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  7. Celcius

    Celcius Guest

    Thanks to you all.
    Your comments are most welcome and useful.
    Marcel
     
    Celcius, Jul 14, 2006
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  8. Celcius

    per Guest

    I've got a Canon S3 IS. My problems have been that the
    Have you tried to increase the LCD brightness in the menu?
    /per
     
    per, Jul 14, 2006
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  9. Celcius

    Alan Guest


    The EVF to my mind is not the greatest either - my old Panasonic Lumic LC-70
    has
    a really bright viewfinder and I find the Canon S3 quite dim in comparison.
     
    Alan, Jul 15, 2006
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