Panasonic DMC-FZ30....ugh!

Discussion in 'Panasonic Lumix' started by RichA, Sep 16, 2005.

  1. One of the annoying things about your questioning John is your
    insistence on evidence for everything you can't comprehend, rather than
    accept the fact that maybe someone other than you actually takes photos
    with a variety of cameras and knows which one to use in which
    circumstance to obtain the best results rather than intimately
    understand the whole (boring) spectrum of electronic imaging.

    I'm a Photographer, not a technologist. My assessment of a camera's
    value is based only on how good a picture it takes. I couldn't care less
    if I tried, whether it used a 4/3 sensor or a 35mm size sensor. If a
    camera can be used for something and it's better for that use than
    another, I'll use it.

    None of these pictures could have been taken with a 20D at the ISO
    settings of the Panasonic and the resulting images, still have been
    sharp. I know because I tried. The mirror shudder of a 20D almost
    guarantees you can't get a sharp picture under 1/125th shutter speed at
    any ISO setting when it's got an f2.8 lens on it.

    From where I stand, that makes the Panasonic a better low light camera
    than the 20D. Just try and take a picture with a 20D at 1/15th shutter
    speed while hand holding the camera... Don't bother what lens you use,
    just make sure it's a f2.8 like the Leica on the Panasonic is.

    Some may argue that the FZ can do this because it has an image
    stabilizer. Big deal. It came built in to the camera. Others might claim
    using ISO 1600 with the 20D will result in a sharp image. So what?
    That's subscribing to the same theory I've just offered...

    The Panasonic has no shutter vibrations. It has no mirror slap. It can
    take sharp pictures at ridiculously slow shutter speeds so it doesn't
    need to use a high ISO to do this. The two cameras are so different they
    can only be judged when allowed to work at their own best settings for a
    given scene.

    Nothing about the specifications of these two cameras can be validly
    compared to each other unless you let the finished photograph be the
    point of judgment... And isn't that what Photography is all about?
    Pix on Canvas, Sep 18, 2005
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  2. RichA

    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    He's posted several examples in the past. Every one of them was user error.
    Jeremy Nixon, Sep 19, 2005
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  3. RichA

    JPS Guest

    In message <>,
    Well, he seems to be shifting on the subject, too. He used to sing this
    about "noise reduction at high ISOs", but now it's hand-holding the
    Canon without IS, vs the FZ20 _with_ IS. Maybe he realized there was no
    such noise reduction in the RAW data.
    JPS, Sep 20, 2005
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