Panasonic G1

Discussion in 'Panasonic Lumix' started by Irwell, Feb 11, 2009.

  1. Irwell

    Irwell Guest

    Is this a good carry around camera?
     
    Irwell, Feb 11, 2009
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  2. Irwell

    Nomen Nescio Guest

    Wrong group,it's not a dSLR, as on rec.photo.digital.point+shoot
     
    Nomen Nescio, Feb 12, 2009
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  3. An interesting point - it's a DSLR in all but the reflex part, as it's a
    large-sensor, interchangeable lens system, which the point+shoot and
    small-sensor cameras are definitely not.

    I think this is the correct group.

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Feb 12, 2009
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  4. Irwell

    Irwell Guest

    Irwell, Feb 13, 2009
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  5. Irwell

    Bruce Guest

    "David J Taylor"

    Then it cannot possibly be a DSLR.

    The "reflex part" is not some minor feature, but the fundamental basis
    on which the term DSLR (digital single lens *REFLEX*) is defined.

    The G1 is an oddity. It is a digital autofocus compact camera ("point
    and shoot") with interchangeable lenses. In that, it closely resembles
    the Contax G1 and G2 which were 35mm film autofocus compact cameras
    ("point and shoot") with interchangeable lenses.

    I strongly suspect that's where the "G1" came from. So expect a G2
    soon, with faster and more reliable autofocus. ;-)
     
    Bruce, Feb 13, 2009
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  6. The reflex part is electronic - the sensor image is used for the
    viewfinder via an internal LCD rather than an optical arrangement with
    mirrors (and their attendant inaccuracies).
    Yes, auto-focus may be the camera's stumbling block, but as I've never
    used one I would reserve comment.

    In terms of which group in r.p.d the camera belongs to, it's clearly one
    of the 4/3 system cameras which have a range of accessories including
    interchangeable lenses, and is not a small-sensor compact camera with
    limited or no manual control. I would not call it "compact", but "small".
    It does highlight the need for a re-assessment of the groups within r.p.d
    or an amendment to their charters.

    Doubtless the debate will continue!

    Cheers,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Feb 13, 2009
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  7. Irwell

    Bruce Guest

    "David J Taylor"

    Then, by definition, it cannot be a reflex camera.

    No doubt you'll harp on about this for months. You will still be wrong.
     
    Bruce, Feb 13, 2009
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  8. Irwell

    Guest Guest

    the function of the mirror has been replaced with electronics. it's a
    *lot* closer to an slr than a p&s compact.
    he's not. since it's a new category, nobody is 'right', but the camera
    fits the slr category better than it does the p&s category.
     
    Guest, Feb 13, 2009
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  9. Bruce,

    I do think it highlights the need to consider where the 4/3 system should
    sit in the r.p.d heirarchcy, and the camera is clearly neither a bridge
    camera (ZLR) or a point+shoot camera (one with little manual control and a
    fixed lens).

    Cheers,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Feb 13, 2009
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  10. Irwell

    Bruce Guest

    "David J Taylor"

    Four Thirds is a DSLR system. Period.
     
    Bruce, Feb 13, 2009
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  11. So the G1 fits here.

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Feb 13, 2009
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  12. Irwell

    Bruce Guest

    "David J Taylor"

    No, it doesn't! The G1 is Micro Four Thirds, a very different format.

    Micro Four Thirds doesn't include a reflex mirror, therefore it cannot
    be a reflex camera, therefore it is (emphatically) NOT a DSLR.

    Just get that into your head, and you can stop talking this nonsense.
     
    Bruce, Feb 13, 2009
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  13. Its an Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lens camera.

    EVIL.

    --Sophie
     
    Sophie Wilson, Feb 13, 2009
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  14. Irwell

    Bruce Guest


    I like that. ;-)
     
    Bruce, Feb 13, 2009
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  15. If you're just going to be insulting, expect no further response from me.

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Feb 13, 2009
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  16. Irwell

    Guest Guest

    olympus has several 4/3 dslrs, and while they're a little noisier than
    nikon/canon, they are still dslrs and worlds better than the tiny
    sensored compact p&s cameras. also, the g1's contrast detection is
    comparable in speed to low end dslrs and its evf is reportedly better
    than previous implementations.
    exactly.

    the reality is that it's a little of each, but it's a lot closer to a
    dslr than it is a p&s. how many p&s compacts can use different lenses,
    including nikon/canon lenses with an adapter?
     
    Guest, Feb 13, 2009
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  17. No, I'm not wasting any more time....

    Cheers,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Feb 13, 2009
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  18. David J Taylor wrote:
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    Should have added that I am sorting out several thousand photos, a few
    dozen movie clips, and some GPS logs from Antarctica. That's my excuse,
    anyway!

    Cheers,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Feb 13, 2009
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  19. Irwell

    Irwell Guest

    Thanks for that common sense answer, will wait a little and see what
    Olympus may have to offer with their Micro 4/3rds version.
     
    Irwell, Feb 13, 2009
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  20. [G1]
    How many DSLRs or SLRs do you know that don't have a mirror?

    I know cameras that have interchangeable lenses and no mirror.
    See ->Rangefinder.

    Hence, the G1 is closest to a rangefinder. ;->

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Feb 14, 2009
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