Panasonic G1

Discussion in 'Panasonic Lumix' started by Irwell, Feb 11, 2009.

  1. Irwell

    ASAAR Guest

    Of course it makes sense, to a few at least. Those that grew up
    in the first generation to have TVs as a major influence. Some
    think that P&S refers to "Point & Shoot", but not to the TV_Genners.
    They think of it as referring to "Phosphor & Screen". You've got to
    realize that if the term had been "P&S&F" instead ("Point & Shoot &
    Fun"), the TV_Genners would have thought that it referred to
    "Phosphor & Screen & Flyback". David's normally a fairly bright
    fellow, but something's afoot here. Maybe the culprit is old age,
    with such a great increase of tangles and placques that large
    numbers of insanely small neurons were left in their wake.


    :)
     
    ASAAR, Feb 15, 2009
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  2. Which David?

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Feb 15, 2009
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  3. Irwell

    ASAAR Guest

    The esteemed D. Littleboy. Don't you recall all of the times he's
    railed against not only P&S cameras but 4/3 cameras as well, with
    their "insanely small pixels"? I guess that he hasn't been using
    that phrase recently, but still . . . Methinks that in this thread
    he's back to his old tricks, having a bit of taunting fun, but
    unlike some others, doesn't do so maliciously. Oh, I almost forgot
    to say that this doesn't mean that I don't think that you're another
    fairly bright fellow, even if we don't always things see eye-to eye.


    :)
     
    ASAAR, Feb 15, 2009
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  4. Good points. The only problem is: It's usenet. Some 18% of our
    inhabitants are here only to argue.

    --
    john mcwilliams

    Edmund Blackadder and Baldrick converse:

    EB: "First Name?"
    B: "I'm not sure."
    EB: "Come on, you MUST have a first name."
    B: "It might be 'Sod Off'."
    EB: "Sod Off??"
    B: "Yeah, when I was a young lad playing in the gutter, I used to say to
    all the other snipes, "Hello, my name's Baldrick". And they'd say, "Yes
    we know, Sod Off, Baldrick"

    - Blackadder and Baldrick filling out an application form.
     
    John McWilliams, Feb 15, 2009
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  5. Where's John Navas? Good points, Neil. I think Jeremy makes a fine
    point, and that's how the camera is used by any particular operator.
    Some top end cameras are P+S under that definition.
     
    John McWilliams, Feb 15, 2009
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  6. Irwell

    ASAAR Guest

    Wrong!!!!! You've got it backwards. It's more like 81%!
     
    ASAAR, Feb 15, 2009
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  7. Irwell

    Steven Green Guest

    Can't be 81%

    Half of usenet is devoted to porn and another 20% to improper marketing
    of cheap rippoffs. I think arguers and others are a minority overall.
     
    Steven Green, Feb 15, 2009
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  8. Irwell

    DRS Guest

    Rubbish!!! And I don't need a reason. This is usenet!
     
    DRS, Feb 15, 2009
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  9. Irwell

    Paul Arthur Guest

    No, it's 73%.
     
    Paul Arthur, Feb 15, 2009
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  10. Irwell

    Paul Arthur Guest

    Well, of you're going to include binaries all of the text put together
    is an insignificant drop. The daily traffic on a full feed is in the
    neighbourhood of four and a half terabytes.
    It's much more useful to limit ourselves to discussion-based groups,
    where arguing is indeed quite common.
     
    Paul Arthur, Feb 15, 2009
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  11. Irwell

    Irwell Guest

    Just out of interest here is a copy of the G1 Manual Index
    for the letters 'A' and 'F'.

    AC Adaptor ..................... 19, 118, 120, 132
    Access Indication ..................................... 24
    Advanced Scene Mode ............................ 88
    AF Assist Lamp ..................................... 107
    AF Mode ................................................. 69
    AF Tracking ....................................... 42, 70
    AF/AE Lock ............................................. 74
    AF/AE Lock Hold ................................... 106
    AFC ......................................40, 44, 45, 69
    AFrMF ................................................. 108
    AFS ......................................40, 44, 45, 69
    Aperture-priority AE .................................84
    Aspect Ratio .................... 98, 153, 154, 155
    Aspect Ratio Conversion ........................ 117
    Auto Bracket ....................................66, 103
    Auto LCD Off ........................................... 31
    Auto Power LCD ...................................... 31
    Auto Review ............................................30
    Auto White Balance .................................7

    Face Detection ..................................41, 69
    Favorite .................................................111
    File Number .....................................32, 119
    Film Mode ............................................... 81
    Fine ........................................................ 99
    Flash .....................................................101
    Flash Adjust ....................................61, 102
    Flash Synchro ......................................... 62
    Fn Button Set ..........................................30
    Focus ................................................46, 74
    Focus Distance Reference Mark ...............73
    Focus Priority ........................................107
    Folder Composition ................................119
    Folder Number ................................32, 119
    Formatting ............................................... 34
     
    Irwell, Feb 15, 2009
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  12. I'd dispute that. It has *way* more of a mirror than the G1,
    for example.
    Contrast detection is a passive rangefinding method. :)

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Feb 15, 2009
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  13. Irwell

    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    Are not.
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Feb 15, 2009
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  14. Are.
     
    John McWilliams, Feb 15, 2009
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  15. Irwell

    ASAAR Guest

    Wrong again. Arrrrh!
     
    ASAAR, Feb 16, 2009
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  16. Irwell

    Dudley Hanks Guest

    Only 18%?
     
    Dudley Hanks, Feb 16, 2009
    #56
  17. Since this thread, it's shot up to 77.38%, ah, more or less....
     
    John McWilliams, Feb 16, 2009
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  18. Irwell

    Bruce Guest


    On Usenet, 43% of statistics are made up on the spot.

    The other 79% are made up afterwards.

    ;-)
     
    Bruce, Feb 16, 2009
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  19. Irwell

    anamigan Guest

    Suddenly it dawns on me that you are all arguing out of your <noun>.

    I tried my first G1 in Hawaii and was really intrigued with its
    operation.
    Back home I hunted one down in my local camera shop for another
    round of questions and practise pictures.

    It's a nice solid piece of kit. The two micro 4/3rds lenses are very
    nice.
    Everything feels good in the hand and when raised to the eye I don't
    think many of its owners will see anything much different from an actual
    mechanical DSLR.

    I've just been offered a Canon XSi + 70-200 L F4 for approximately
    the same price as the G1 plus the second zoom.

    I'm a bit torn.

    My first digital was a C2100UZ which is still in service.
    Before that I used a Pentax 6x7 which I am going to sell off after
    35 years of faithful service.

    The Pentax can really capture things, but the digital gets carried
    along far more often. I really like the reach of the UZ but prints
    from the 6x7 are beautiful.

    G1 or XSi?
     
    anamigan, Feb 17, 2009
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  20. anamigan wrote:
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    If existing lenses are not an issue, I would go for the camera which felt
    better in my hands - which felt more natural to operate. I would have a
    concern as to how well Micro Four Thirds was going to succeed (at this
    point in its development) and therefore what extra lenses I might or might
    not be able to get. I could probably manage with the 14-45/45-200
    combination, although recently I have preferred a single lens on the
    camera (18-200mm Nikon) and it's good to see a 14-140mm which will provide
    a similar capability. I maight wait and see what the G2 brings.

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Feb 17, 2009
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