Panasonic GS120 How do I download to PC?

Discussion in 'Panasonic Lumix' started by Trevor Appleton, Dec 19, 2004.

  1. Trevor Appleton

    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    Oh come on, he has bought a digital video camera, it doesn't take Albert
    Einstein to work out that, just may be, 'DV' means Digital Video. Not only
    that, put ' DV "Firewire" ' into Google and even the lobotomised wood-louse
    that Tony keeps on about would soon see that the two are related.
    The root of the problem is that some are either to ignorant to read a manual
    or to stupid to understand it, nothing more and nothing less.
    No, he had asked about what cable he needed on the 8th Dec., anyone with
    half a brain would have used the time between then and the cable being
    delivered to Google / RTFM...
    Sorry but the time-line of events say everything about Trevor's lack of
    knowledge and his willingness to learn, preferring to have his solutions to
    his problems spoon feed to him instead.
     
    :::Jerry::::, Dec 21, 2004
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  2. Trevor Appleton

    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    Blush.... Oops, sorry !
     
    :::Jerry::::, Dec 21, 2004
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  3. Trevor Appleton

    Deep Reset Guest

    Here I find myself in an odd situation defending both Tony and Jerry (!).
    The OP should have RTFM - I did, though I don't own *any* Panasonic gear.

    I just got the manual off the Panasonic website.
    It took me maybe a minute to determine:
    1) That this 3 CCD camcorder has a DV socket (what a surprise)
    2) The location of the DV/1394/firewire socket
    3) the section on how to connect the camcorder to a PC.

    What is *really* surprising is that the camera came with a USB but not an
    ilink/1394/firewire cable.
    Bad mark to Panasonic. (Hmmm...I wonder *why* I don't own any Panasonic
    gear?)

    Yes, both Jerry and Tony waded in a bit heavy, but really - why would anyone
    here (seriously) spend 500 quid on any device that they *really* didn't
    understand at least the basic terminology of?

    Then the OP tries to establish credentials by posting obtuse references.
    Well, I've got to say that I thought anglers were pushing their
    "intellectual" credentials as hunters by "pitting their wits against the
    fish" - well, at least their prey can get out of the way.

    Deep.
     
    Deep Reset, Dec 21, 2004
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  4. Gentleman (!)

    I've had an analogue camcorder for 10 years, so it seemed a good time to
    upgrade so I could make family dvd's for the inlaws.

    When a review says firewire in/out:

    http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/index.cfm?go=hardware.view&product=2133

    and the manual doesn't mention firewire, one rather worries.

    BTW I know 10X more about camcorders than anyone I know personally, so I
    dread to think how you'd treat a beginner.

    I have had such a friendly correspondence directly with people reading this
    thread, that you really will have to have a look at yourselves and not
    behave like a cliquey club.
     
    Trevor Appleton, Dec 22, 2004
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  5. Trevor Appleton

    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    Or puts ' DV "Firewire" ' into Google and look at what gets returned !
    But you don't, you just think you do and thus can't be bothered to read
    manuals or web pages....
    If you say so, but one has to wonder why you stick around...
     
    :::Jerry::::, Dec 22, 2004
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  6. It would be rude not to reply...besides I'd miss all the fun!!
     
    Trevor Appleton, Dec 22, 2004
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  7. Trevor Appleton

    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    And at your expense !
     
    :::Jerry::::, Dec 22, 2004
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  8. On the contrary. I think the above postings conclude that you have zero
    tolerance for newbies
     
    Trevor Appleton, Dec 22, 2004
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  9. "


    Well I am going skiiing in Norway shortly if thats what you mean.
     
    Trevor Appleton, Dec 22, 2004
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  10. Trevor Appleton

    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    No, I have much tolerance for newbies, I have nil for those who can't be
    bothered to read their user manual, read a web page or do a basic Google
    search before whinging that their purchase doesn't do what it says on the
    box...
     
    :::Jerry::::, Dec 22, 2004
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  11. I'm neither missing the point nor selectively reading.

    The reference was to the "DV Terminal" which also had absolutely no meaning to
    me as I've never heard of that description. When I read your page number
    references, I downloaded the manual did a search for firewire which came up
    blank, it was only when I found the single reference to IEEE1394 that I
    concluded that "DV Terminal" was a firewire port but that was only after
    checking that I was reading the right manual.

    Obviously, I am also stupid and don't have any basic knowledge about DV and
    computers.

    I'm not going to argue further as neither you or Tony will ever accept that you
    are wrong. It's worth remembering that the best filmmakers, at whatever level
    and with whatever ability, are ones that are able to look at any
    subject/problem/person with alternative perspectives.

    Stuart

    www.mckears.com



    One thing that
     
    Stuart McKears, Dec 22, 2004
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  12. Trevor Appleton

    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    With respect you are.
    If he had read the manual he would have seen a port being called a "DV
    Terminal", now most people would have asked here (or Googled) if a "DV
    Terminal" is anything to do with a Firewire port.
    Well if you, with all your claimed knowledge, couldn't link the two then yes
    perhaps you are !
    IYHO.

    It's worth remembering that the best filmmakers, at whatever level
    Very true, but basic knowledge helps before asking the crew if the camera
    uses film or tape - think about it....
     
    :::Jerry::::, Dec 22, 2004
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  13. Trevor Appleton

    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    Err, care to expand on this Tony !...
     
    :::Jerry::::, Dec 22, 2004
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  14. Trevor Appleton

    Just D. Guest

    Excellent answer, Tony! Especially keeping in mind a few professional guys
    writing here in this newsgroup who spent the whole life with camcorders,
    editing tools, optical devices, viewfinders, etc. Some of them were working
    for TV as professionals...)

    I'm sure this guy should be more polite and do NOT speak about all people
    around, a simple rule should sound like - "you always can find somebody in
    your environment who doesn't cry and dispute about his skills, but actually
    who's smarter, stronger, more professional, has more experience, etc.,
    etc.".

    I wasn't reading this newsgroup for a week or two and found it over spammed.
    Pity.

    Dmitri.
     
    Just D., Dec 26, 2004
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  15. ....exactly, they seem to think everyone else should kinow as much and if
    they don't, simply dismiss them as morons.

    I've just spent 8 hours on my sister in laws computer changing internal
    modems, changing hard drives installing drivers etc, she thinks all this PC
    stuff is another world. How would she have been treated here?
     
    Trevor Appleton, Dec 28, 2004
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  16. Trevor Appleton

    Just D. Guest

    Tony,

    Just a short quote from the fido7.humor.filtered newsgroup posted today.

    ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    Area : ALT.HUMOR.BEST-OF-USENET
    From : John W. Krahn (), Sun Dec 26 2004 15:23
    ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    In keeping with the apparent theme of the news group today, I have a
    question:

    How can I achieve everything all the time, with little or no effort on
    my part? Please limit responses to 2 or 3 words because reading makes
    me tired.
    ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    I have no comments.

    Dmitri.
     
    Just D., Dec 28, 2004
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  17. Trevor Appleton

    Paul F Guest

    The third site says he has young children. He's probably just knackered.

    Paul F
     
    Paul F, Dec 29, 2004
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