Panasonic HDC-SD3-S

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Lars Schouw, Jul 4, 2007.

  1. Lars Schouw

    Lars Schouw Guest

    I bought a Panasonic HDC-SD3-S in Tokyo. Is there any English software
    that can handle the AVCHD format?

    I have tried a lot of different software but the most of it fails to
    work with this new model.

    Lars
     
    Lars Schouw, Jul 4, 2007
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    Scubajam Guest

    Ulead has Video Studio 11. It captures and for editing converts AVCHD
    to something else, like HDV?? Anyway, AVCHD is so compressed with
    mpg4 that it's a difficult codec to work with. There a few cameras
    that record this way, and only a couple editing programs. You can get
    a free trial version from ulead.com to see if it works for you. The
    program is less than $100, something like $70 if you want to buy it.

    Jim McGauhey
    Washington State
     
    Scubajam, Jul 4, 2007
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  3. Check into Pinnacle Studio 11. I am using it to edit footage from my
    Panasonic AG-HSC1UP, the semi-pro version of the SD1, the cousin of your
    camcorder. It handles the AVCHD format and 5.1 sound just fine.

    Bye.
     
    David Sommers, Jul 5, 2007
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    jerry Guest

    1. Apple Final Cut Pro 6.0.1:

    http://tinyurl.com/2cftnp

    2. Pinnacle Studio Ultimate 11:

    http://tinyurl.com/bps8u

    3. Corel VideoStudio 11 Plus:

    http://tinyurl.com/yqbxf7

    4. Sony Vegas:

    http://tinyurl.com/24zlta

    5. Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum Edition:

    http://tinyurl.com/2fdz8z

    I've tried Ulead VideoStudio 11 Plus and Pinnacle Studio Ultimate 11.

    Both seem stable and capable.

    I've posted screen shots of their interfaces here:

    http://www.jonesgroup.net/media/vstenplus.htm
    http://www.jonesgroup.net/media/studiointerface.htm

    Jerry Jones
    http://www.jonesgroup.net
     
    jerry, Jul 5, 2007
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  5. Lars Schouw

    Lars Schouw Guest

    I just downloaded it and it does not recongnize the .mts format that
    the files are stored in,
    What I try to open it anyway it says unknow format
    Lars
     
    Lars Schouw, Jul 5, 2007
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    Lars Schouw Guest

    Jerry,
    Asked the support forum,
    No trial version I am waiting for Apple support to come back to me if
    my camera is supported
    No trial version.
    I had a live chat with support they told me if should work and send me
    this link.
    http://pinnacle.custhelp.com/cgi-bi...td_adp.php?p_faqid=15672&p_created=1177688904


    Does not recognize format of file.
    Asked the support forum,
    Could not open file. The reason for the error is not to be determined.
    Guess it wont work since Sony is a compeditor.
    Did not try., see 4.
     
    Lars Schouw, Jul 5, 2007
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    Mike Kujbida Guest

    Vegas 7.0e allows users of Sony AVCHD video cameras to create high-
    definition or standard-definition content using files recorded to
    their Sony AVCHD camera's hard disk, flash memory, or DVD. Skipping
    the real-time capturing stage common for tape-based projects
    eliminates a time-consuming step prior to editing.

    In July of 2007, Sony Creative Software will also release an upgrade
    to the consumer editing software, Vegas Movie Studio Platinum Edition
    8, with support Sony AVCHD video cameras.

    Mike
     
    Mike Kujbida, Jul 5, 2007
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    jerry Guest

    Lars,

    1. Corel VideoStudio 11 Plus will work with the Panasonic AVCHD
    camcorders.

    However, the limitation of Corel (formerly Ulead) VideoStudio 11 Plus
    is that you must use the software's "Import From DVD/DVD-VR" capture
    utility; you can't simply "import" a file that was captured by some
    other type of software.

    Yes, this is a limitation of the current Corel version. But I do know
    that you can import from Panasonic camcorders. I've read comments from
    others who have done it. But I think they may have had to copy the
    contents of their memory cards to their computer hard disks first.

    2. Yes, I forgot about the Sony software only supporting Sony AVCHD
    camcorders.

    Yes, this seems to be a limitation of the Sony software, currently,
    but I suspect they'll expand support to other AVCHD camcorders if they
    intend to sustain sales.

    3. I also have the Pinnacle Studio Ultimate 11 software and -- frankly
    -- I'm impressed. I have a Sony HDR-UX1 AVCHD camcorder that records
    high and standard definition video to DVD discs. The Pinnacle software
    -- after I installed it -- has proven to be remarkably stable.
    Moreover, it can capture the AVCHD from my Sony camcorder using its
    internal capture capability. But it can also simply "import" AVCHD
    files captured by the Sony "Picture Motion Browser" software that
    ships with the camcorder. I've heard that past Pinnacle products had
    problems with stability and bugs. Well, this version seems to be quite
    good. In addition, there's a review by Jan Ozer that seems to agree:

    http://tinyurl.com/2wlvso

    Perhaps Avid's acquisition of Pinnacle has helped.

    Jerry Jones
    http://www.jonesgroup.net
     
    jerry, Jul 5, 2007
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  9. The Panasonic software changes the .MTS file extension to .M2TS when you
    download video from the camcorder to the PC. That is the file extension I
    use.

    Bye
     
    David Sommers, Jul 6, 2007
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    Scubajam Guest

    ***********************************************************

    Well, obviously you're working on this, and providing us with good
    feedback. I don't have experience with AVCHD per se, but have a
    similar situation with some HD files from a HDV tape camcorder. There
    also I can create a mts file, which is Transport Stream, designed to
    transport the file back to the camera. My Ulead software won't import
    this file either. However, I've learned that I can simply change the
    file extenstion from mts to mpg and everything works. Now, I'm
    working with mpg2 and you are working with mpg4 files, but still, it's
    worth a shot. I suggest you COPY the file so no damage can be done to
    the original, then play with it, and change the extension to mpg, mp4,
    and m2ts and see if any of those will work. Let us know.

    Jim McGauhey
     
    Scubajam, Jul 6, 2007
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    Frank Guest


    As has been suggested, changing the file extension to .m2ts may well
    result in an editing program which previously rejected the file as
    "unknown", now gladly accepting the file as input.

    1080i HDV consists of MPEG-2 [email protected] CBR video with two channels of
    MPEG-1 Layer II audio, while 1080i AVCHD consists of MPEG-4 Part 10
    H.264 AVC VBR video with 5.1 channel Dolby Digital AC-3 audio. Despite
    this significant difference, both formats use an MPEG-2 Transport
    stream wrapper, although after having been transferred to a computer's
    hard disk drive, HDV files normally have a .m2t file extension while
    AVCHD files normally have a .m2ts file extension which, if nothing
    else, makes it easy to distinguish HDV footage from AVCHD footage.
     
    Frank, Jul 6, 2007
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    Lars Schouw Guest

    Thanks Mike so this does not help me since I have a Panasoic AVCHD
    camera.\
    Lars
     
    Lars Schouw, Jul 7, 2007
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    Lars Schouw Guest

    I found out I might have to run the HD Writer software.
    After doing that
    1. Coreal VideoStufio 11 Plus
    2. Vegas 7.0e does
    does both not work with the Panasonic .M2TS AVCHD files.
    Lars
     
    Lars Schouw, Jul 7, 2007
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    Lars Schouw Guest

    Jim,

    I tried to rename the files to .mpeg4 and still get the same errors in
    the tested software.

    Lars
     
    Lars Schouw, Jul 7, 2007
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    Lars Schouw Guest

    David... Thanks I realized this also and used the HD Writer softyware
    provided by Panasoinc on a CD but still facing the same problems

    Lars
     
    Lars Schouw, Jul 7, 2007
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    Lars Schouw Guest

    The HD Writer software can even convert the files into mpeg files 9
    mbps or 6 mbps not sure what quality or sound I loose in that process
    but are looking into it now.
     
    Lars Schouw, Jul 7, 2007
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    Lars Schouw Guest

    One open question where can I find an English version of Panasonic HD
    Writer?
     
    Lars Schouw, Jul 7, 2007
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    jerry Guest

    Lars,

    You must be doing something wrong.

    I *know* the Corel VideoStudio 11 Plus software will work with the
    Panasonic camcorders.

    Here's what I would suggest that you do, if you're wanting to get it
    to work.

    1. Insert the memory card from the camcorder into your computer's card
    reader.

    2. Copy the entire directory to your computer's hard disk to a named
    folder that you can easily find.

    3. Open Corel VideoStudio 11 Plus.

    4. Click the CAPTURE button.

    5. Click the "IMPORT FROM DVD/DVD-VR" button.

    6. Next, you should see a pop-up menu that says "SELECT A DVD TITLE."

    7. Click the "IMPORT DVD FOLDER" button.

    8. Next, you should see a pop-up menu that says "BROWSE FOR FOLDER."

    9. Using your mouse, browse to the folder on your computer's hard disk
    where you copied your Panasonic directory.

    10. Highlight the folder containing the video/audio data and click the
    OK button.

    This should work because many others have reported on the product Web
    board that it works.

    But you can't import the files captured by other software.

    Jerry Jones
    http://www.jonesgroup.net
     
    jerry, Jul 7, 2007
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    jerry Guest

    The "support forum" response you received was incorrect.

    The Corel capture utility *does* capture from Panasonic AVCHD
    camcorders.

    You must have communicated with somebody who didn't know what they
    were talking about.

    Jerry Jones
    http://www.jonesgroup.net
     
    jerry, Jul 7, 2007
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    Lars Schouw Guest

    Jerry
    That workes. So what fornat will this end up in? MPEG2 6 mbps?
    Lars
     
    Lars Schouw, Jul 8, 2007
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