Panasonic Lumix vs Kodak vs Anything Else, $500 range, at least 10x Zoom

Discussion in 'Panasonic Lumix' started by Rich Belthoff, Jan 1, 2005.

  1. I'm thinking about switching from film to digital. I have a Pentax *ist 35mm
    right now, with a Sigma 35-300mm lens, which I think is just great, but I
    may want the flexibility of digital.

    I'm looking at the Lumix FZ20 or the Kodak EasyShare DX7500. Any thoughts on
    one vs. the other? The one thing about the Kodak is that if I register by
    Jan 31, they'll send me a 1 GB SD card.

    I also saw the Nikon CoolPix, but I think the optical zoom is only 8X.

    Does anybody know if any of these cameras have a "databack" (i.e., can they
    print the date on photos)? I've looked at the specs, but I swear I can't see
    anything.

    Thx.

    -Rich
     
    Rich Belthoff, Jan 1, 2005
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    Pete D Guest

    Why not just buy a *ist DS body to use with the Pentax lens, they cost a bit
    more but it will blow you away with how good they are.
     
    Pete D, Jan 1, 2005
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  3. Don't overlook the FZ3 which is much cheaper ($390), lighter, and smaller
    than the other FZs. I really like this camera.

    Bob M
     
    Robert Morrisette, Jan 1, 2005
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    Dutch Flyer Guest

    You should try to stretch it and get a Pentax *ist DSLR body. Digicams like
    the ones you mentioned don't come close to DSLR performance, especially
    in terms of speed, noise and color accuracy.
     
    Dutch Flyer, Jan 2, 2005
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    Pete D Guest

    Already said that but they never believe you.
     
    Pete D, Jan 2, 2005
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    Ron Hunter Guest

    Sigh.
    I will NEVER understand why anyone would want to deface his pictures
    with a date actually covering the subject matter. However, I am pretty
    sure the Kodak DX7590 will let you do this. May I suggest that if you
    want to know when a picture was taken, you look at the EXIF data
    recorded by just about every current digital camera, and print that on
    the BACK of the photo.
     
    Ron Hunter, Jan 2, 2005
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  7. I just bougt a new digicam, and was choosing between Canon A95 and Lumix
    FZ20. I am sure that FZ20 is one of the best non-SLR today (espicially
    because of the lens), but I bought the Canon A95 because of the lower price,
    better battery life (normal AA batteries) CompactFlash which I have a couple
    of already.

    But I would say go for for Lumix.

    Regards, Lars.
     
    Lars Bonnesen, Jan 2, 2005
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  8. The Pentax DSLR, apart from being expensive, will make your lens work like
    a 53 - 460mm zoom.
    The image stabilisation in the FZ20 is well worth having.
    Nikon have the Coolpix 8800 ZLR which is 10:1 zoom (35 - 350mm) and
    includes image stabilisation.
    I can't promise, but the Nikon 8400 has this function, and therefore most
    likely the 8800 does as well. You could download the manual to check if
    you like. However, with digital the date and time is given in information
    at the start of the image file, so you may not need this function.

    We went for the Panasonic FZ20 as the best compromise - it has the image
    stabilisation (great for long zooms) and a Leica f/2.8 lens.

    Cheers,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Jan 2, 2005
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  9. I thought about that, but there is quite a bit of difference in the price.
    The *ist DS also doesn't have video capability. I may not shoot a lot of
    video, but my brother has a P&S digital camera and he sends us video now and
    then over email.

    Thx.

    -Rich
     
    Rich Belthoff, Jan 2, 2005
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  10. If you have a pictbridge enable printer, does the date stamp print on the
    photos like they do when I take film shots?

    So, I guess if the info is stored in the image, there's probably some way to
    add a data stamp to photos that I might want to have it on, but I'd have to
    do it manually before printing. Oh well.

    Thx.

    -Rich
     
    Rich Belthoff, Jan 2, 2005
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  11. I think I've seen the *istDS for something like $800 and the Lumix FZ20 for
    under $500. I'm still thinking about it. I suppose if I could sell my *ist
    body on eBay for a reasonable price and keep the 28 to 300 lens, I might be
    able to make up the difference (and I do really prefer 28mm to 36 or more on
    these other ones).

    Thx.

    -Rich
     
    Rich Belthoff, Jan 2, 2005
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  12. Is there some place that would show example prints of each??

    I've seen some samples from the Lumix, and they look pretty good, but I
    haven't seen anything printed out on paper. I may have to go to some camera
    shop and see what they've got.

    Thx.

    -Rich
     
    Rich Belthoff, Jan 2, 2005
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  13. Print on the back sounds like a plan. I hadn't thought of that. I'm not sure
    I want to get a photo printer and all that. I might just use some online
    service, like Shutterfly. Can these auto services just print EXIF data on
    the back??

    Thx.

    -Rich
     
    Rich Belthoff, Jan 2, 2005
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  14. Are you saying that if I got the *ist DS that my 28-300mm lens is only going
    to be 53mm instead of 28? Why is that? If that's the case, then that's a
    reason not to go with the *ist DS.

    Thx.

    -Rich
     
    Rich Belthoff, Jan 2, 2005
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  15. Yes. Because the sensor on the DSLR is smaller than a 35mm full frame,
    you only see the field of view equivalent to a lens about 1.5 times the
    focal length. The middle part of the picture is cropped. In that
    respect, the 35 - 300mm zoom you quoted would behave like a 53 - 460mm
    zoom when mounted on a DSLR. A 28mm lens would have the same field of
    view as a 42mm lens.

    Cheers,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Jan 2, 2005
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    Ron Hunter Guest

    I can't imagine wanting a date printed ON my pictures. So much for art.
     
    Ron Hunter, Jan 3, 2005
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    Ron Hunter Guest

    I have gotten pictures with the date in yellow, or red on the body of
    the picture. Often it is possible to get rid of it with Photoshop
    Elements, but it is very distracting to me. Rather like a flashing
    light in my face.
    Doesn't seem to bother many people, though. There is no accounting for
    taste...
     
    Ron Hunter, Jan 3, 2005
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    beuzet Guest

    The DX6490 does and, from some reviews I've read, the DX7590 also does.

    I don't use date stamp for personal pictures, and can't understand it
    either, but we do at work where we e-mail pictures documenting
    deficiencies back and forth. The date is as important as the subject.
    It's also written into some construction contracts that you will provide
    daily time stamped progress pictures. It's just a useful option when you
    need it.
     
    beuzet, Jan 4, 2005
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    Ron Baird Guest

    Greetings Rich,

    The DX7590 is a great camera and you will be very well pleased with it. The
    external flash option is one of my favorite features along with the 10 X
    optical zoom and the electronic viewfinder. I am sorry to say, however,
    that the offer for a 1 gig card was over on Dec 31st. You had to buy the
    camera before the end of the year. The reference to Jan 31st is the
    postmark date.

    Please review the following link for details. Did not want you to base your
    decision just on that feature. Rather, the camera itself is worth having.
    FYI

    http://www.kodak.com/US/en/digital/products/highlights/rebates/1GBCardOffer.jhtml

    Ron Baird
    Eastman Kodak Company
     
    Ron Baird, Jan 4, 2005
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  20. Thanks for checking on that. It is helpful in making my decision.

    -Rich
     
    Rich Belthoff, Jan 8, 2005
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