Pentax K10D aand K100D cameras

Discussion in 'Pentax' started by Strider, Jan 2, 2008.

  1. Strider

    Strider Guest

    Greetings from Norfolk (UK)

    I am considering whether to buy either a K100D or a K10D Pentax, and
    am
    interested in what current users of the two models have to say.
    I am obviously aware of the price difference, the different no. of
    pixels
    and the different type of battery used, but what other features make
    the K10D
    worth the extra.
    Also, if I buy the K100D how many shots am I likely to get from a set
    of
    batteries (assuming that flash is not used) ???
    Any information would be much appreciated.
    --
    Richard.

    "I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which when looked
    at in
    the right way, did not become still more complicated"
    Poul Anderson
     
    Strider, Jan 2, 2008
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  2. USE the camera. K100D got mirror viewfinder, while K10D got the
    traditional prism.

    Otherwise, use e.g.
    <http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/com...stdl2,pentax_k100dsuper,pentax_k10d&show=all>

    K10D got much better sealing. Both K10D and K100D *Super* got support
    for HSM lenses.
    And assuming that you won't use the display and will use perfect eneloop
    batteries and won't use lots of image stabilisation and won't use RAW
    and won't do long AF hunts and...

    which means: battery live is influenced by many more factors of your
    private applications. Batteries will work pretty far for common users,
    while they will always run dry when this will be a problem for you.
    Always have at least one spare set with you...

    HTH
    Martin
     
    Martin Trautmann, Jan 2, 2008
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  3. Strider

    Pete D Guest

    Image stabilisation only happens at the time the shot is taken so will have
    little effect on battery life, same for RAW, Eneloops are a great idea
    though for the K100Ds.

    Expect 400-500 shots at least with either camera, flash use will have the
    biggest effect on battery life.
     
    Pete D, Jan 2, 2008
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  4. Strider

    RichA Guest

    You could spend months with the K10D and not utilize all it's control
    functions, it is very comprehensive. This also means you have to work
    to get the best out of it. Also, you are unlikely to find a plastic
    (now priced at entry level) camera with its build quality again,
    unlike other cameras in its price range, it does not feel cheaply
    made. If you consider the K100, also look at Olympus's E-510 as it
    has a better kit lens (much better) and will produce good images right
    from the box.
     
    RichA, Jan 2, 2008
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  5. Strider

    dullpain Guest

    If you can afford the price difference and are serious about photography you
    will regret not getting the K10d.
     
    dullpain, Jan 2, 2008
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  6. Strider

    Pete D Guest

    The HyperProgram mode with the two wheels on the K10D makes for easy
    learning for both Tv and Av mode, really very good.
     
    Pete D, Jan 2, 2008
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  7. Strider

    RichA Guest

    Yes, if they pay attention to what happens to S.S. and A when they
    turn the wheel and try to understand the purpose of the programs.
    Most people transitioning from P&S to DSLR are daunted by the
    complexity. Once they figure out what the green bar means, they'll
    likely leave the camera set on it.
     
    RichA, Jan 2, 2008
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  8. Strider

    Strider Guest

    An interesting thought, but as I have a number of Pentax lenses
    already, and Pentax cameras, I would like to have interchangeability
    of lenses from existing cameras to new camera, hence choice between
    K10 and K100.
     
    Strider, Jan 3, 2008
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    Bob G Guest

    I've owned two Pentax K10D and both showed inordinate amounts of noise
    at ISO 400 and beyond. I sold them both. Don't know anything about the
    K100D.
     
    Bob G, Jan 3, 2008
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  10. Strider

    Pete D Guest

    I've owned two Pentax K10D and both showed inordinate amounts of noise
    at ISO 400 and beyond. I sold them both. Don't know anything about the
    K100D.

    Sounds like you bought the wrong tool for the job you are doing or want to
    do!
     
    Pete D, Jan 3, 2008
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  11. ??? Who the hell doesnt want low noise at ISO 800/1600 ???

    You sound like your another Pentaxian (aka moronians)
     
    Yvan Descartes, Jan 3, 2008
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  12. Strider

    Pboud Guest

    Studio photographers? Hobbyists that do day shooting only? Still life
    (read tripod) shooters?

    It's not that they'd not *want* low noise at 800/1600, but could likely
    live with it at those ISOs since they'd rarely, if ever go up there.


    It's right up there with "Who the hell doesn't want 10FPS capability ???"..

    You use what you need.



    P.
     
    Pboud, Jan 3, 2008
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  13. Stay away from Pentax. SR doesnt work well after 100-150mm (just when you
    start to need it), AF is very slow and unusable in low light, dust shaker is
    useless, more noise at ISO 800 and 1600 than any Canon DSLR. Jpeg engine
    suck, be prepare to shoot RAW and do PP for every shots you take. They also
    have a lots of problem withe the new slow SDM lenses made in Vietnam and
    still have a lots of problem with their flashes (built in and external).
    Finding lenses can be a pain in the ass,many store dont sell Pentax anymore
    and when they do, they only have have kit lenses.


    Get a 30D, 40D a D300 or wait for the K20D.
     
    Yvan Descartes, Jan 3, 2008
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  14. Strider

    Pete D Guest

    Great comment did you get a nice big kick out of that?

    But going back to what I said, if you buy the wrong tool for the job then
    your research was probably at fault.

    Any camera is a compromise, you just have to choose which compromise you can
    live with.

    And I am not even going to point out your spelling mistakes.

    Cheers.

    Pete
     
    Pete D, Jan 3, 2008
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  15. Strider

    Pete D Guest


    ROFL, you rock man!
     
    Pete D, Jan 3, 2008
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  16. Strider

    Pete D Guest

    Actually the K10D is quite useable at higher ISO, just not as good as some
    more recent cameras but that is all.
     
    Pete D, Jan 4, 2008
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  17. Strider

    philippe Guest

    I assumed as much, since the reviews for it have been fairly good. I've
    not handled it, however, so couldn't actually say that.

    :)
    P.
     
    philippe, Jan 4, 2008
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  18. Strider

    Pete D Guest

    I dare say that there are some here that happily jump all over this camera
    and have never even touched one let alone used one in anger.
     
    Pete D, Jan 4, 2008
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  19. Strider

    Doug Jewell Guest

    Dude - what happened to you? someone belt you over the head
    with a Pentax lens when you were a kid? That's some pretty
    serious grudge you hold there. Got quite a laugh outta that
    list.
     
    Doug Jewell, Jan 4, 2008
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  20. Strider

    Doug Jewell Guest

    Yep - nothing wrong with it's high ISO at all. Pixel-peepers
    may not like it, but in the real world there's nothing wrong
    with it. In the few weeks leading up to Christmas I was
    doing some contract "Photo with Santa" work. Due to a major
    failure with the studio lamps, and the difficulty of getting
    it fixed at that time of the year, I had to make do with
    what I could get at short notice - a GN15 flashgun with a
    diffuser. The nett result was I had to do the shoot at ISO
    800. Printed at 8x10, the prints were more than acceptible,
    and we got one of the highest hit-rates for selling reprints
    in the franchise, and a higher hit-rate than in previous
    years when a 20D and studio lamps were used. I'm not saying
    the quality of the camera was so good that it made us get a
    good hit-rate, but if it was crap it would have worked
    against us. The end result is that in the real world, a K10D
    at ISO 800 makes 8x10 photographs good enough to sell - and
    thats good enough for me!
     
    Doug Jewell, Jan 4, 2008
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