Pentax K10d

Discussion in 'Pentax' started by frederick, Sep 13, 2006.

  1. frederick

    frederick Guest

    10mp / 3fps sensor. New in-camera anti-shake system (allows for lens
    focal length, adjusts for vert. horiz. rotational shake - manual input
    of lens focal length possible when using old lenses.) Dust removal.
    Weather sealed. ~100,000 actuation rated shutter. 96% FOV / 0.95
    magnification viewfinder (penta-mirror).
    LiIon batteries - optional vertical grip. List price is supposed to be
    $US899 for body.
    Plenty of choice now in 10mp <$1000 dslrs.
    400d / d80 / a100 / K10d

    Steve's digicams press release was pulled from site - but can be d/l
    here (until he gets a cease and desist notice):
    frederick, Sep 13, 2006
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    Paul Rubin Guest

    Paul Rubin, Sep 13, 2006
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    frederick Guest

    More likely just a Steve's Digicams typo.
    frederick, Sep 13, 2006
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    Paul Rubin Guest

    Definitely not a Steve's Digicams typo. Maybe a typo that occurred
    further upstream in the marketroid process, after which the press
    release writer went berserk with it:

    Newly developed A/D converter for truthful image data conversion

    The K10D incorporates a high-performance A/D converter, which
    faithfully converts the analog data collected by the CCD image sensor
    into digital data. With the highest resolving power (22 bits, or 4.2
    million gradations) among all existing digital cameras, it offers a
    digital-conversion capacity 1,024 times greater than conventional
    12-bit, 4,096-gradation A/D converters.

    The above paragraph is of course completely insane.
    Paul Rubin, Sep 13, 2006
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    Paul Mitchum Guest

    I'm jazzed about everything but the penta-mirror. Maybe there'll be a
    K11d with a pentaprism.

    The 70mm pancake lens looks nice, too.
    Paul Mitchum, Sep 13, 2006
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    frederick Guest

    Oh - I didn't see all that - I agree. However at $899 for the general
    feature set for this camera, the marketroids seem to have done a very
    good job in other ways. I can't see any of these new dslr prices
    holding - even at the low 400d level - after the early adopters (aka
    real beta tester) market has been saturated and stock is sitting on the
    frederick, Sep 13, 2006
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    Paul Mitchum Guest

    The converter is 22-bit, the sensor is 12-bit. This is good, for obvious
    reasons. However, it leads to completely true but potentially-misleading
    copy as above.

    Note also that the camera can write DNG files. Yay open standards.
    Paul Mitchum, Sep 13, 2006
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    Paul Mitchum Guest

    Then it's just time to rebrand it as Samsung. :)
    Paul Mitchum, Sep 13, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    Mmmm, I am thinking that the the only reason the A100 is in this list is
    that it is 10MP, does not look up to par really.
    I am pretty sure that it will be a Penta Prism, expect to see a 16-50mm F2.8
    as well.
    Pete D, Sep 13, 2006
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    Paul Mitchum Guest

    The linked article says it's a penta-mirror.
    Paul Mitchum, Sep 13, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    I would be a little sad if it is a penta mirror but I am sure that if it is
    then Pentax will have it working as well as it is possible to have a penta
    mirror working. I just checked through the info I had been forwarded but it
    does not mention the viewfinder. I am pleased that they are retaining the
    LCD screen on top unlike the 400D. The battery grip is truly a work of art
    and the finish on the camera is just superb. The dual wheels will take a
    little getting used to after my DS but I will adapt. Not sure if the change
    to lithium batteries is good or bad and I have no info on whether the
    battery grip will accept AA's but I hope so.
    Pete D, Sep 13, 2006
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    Sander Guest

    The linked article says its a prism:

    "Bright, clear viewfinder

    Featuring a glass pentaprism, the K10D’s viewfinder offers a 96-percent
    field of view and a 0.95-times magnification for easy viewing of the
    subject and effortless confirmation of focus and composition. Coupled
    with the acclaimed Natural-Bright-Matte II focusing screen, it delivers
    a large, bright subject image. "

    The feature table at the bottom however lists it as a mirror:

    "Optical Viewfinder -Pentamirror with Natural-Bright-Matte II focusing

    Obviously one of the two is wrong.
    I think the camera will have the pentaprism.

    Sander, Sep 13, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    The DL, K100 and K110 have penta mirror and the viewfinders are pretty good
    but not quite up to the DS and D. I really don't think that Pentax will do
    that to us.
    Pete D, Sep 13, 2006
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    frederick Guest

    Do what to you?
    Dump you with a miserly 10mp dslr with weather sealing, in-camera IS,
    spot metering, and a separate top LCD for the about the same price as a
    400d that also has a penta-mirror but nothing else of particular
    interest??? Despite probable penta-mirror - at 96% / 0.95 it's a much
    bigger size viewfinder than a 400d has.
    frederick, Sep 13, 2006
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    Mark B. Guest

    Most interesting feature to me in a sub-$1,000 cam is the weather
    sealing...wonder if this is accurate?

    Mark B., Sep 13, 2006
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    w.beckley Guest

    If all of this bears out, then Pentax may finally have a truly
    wonderful camera on its hands. I'm glad, as Pentax has remained close
    to my heart, even if I abandoned them. I love the extent to which they
    support old glass, unlike Canon and Nikon.

    I hope this is all true. If nothing else, the "big two" could use some
    competition from someone other than Sony, and from someone marketting a
    camera on its merit rather than its "brand appeal."

    w.beckley, Sep 13, 2006
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    acl Guest

    What's that supposed to mean? What does the bit depth of a sensor mean?
    acl, Sep 13, 2006
  18. BHPHOTOVIDEO.COM is already listing the camera with kit lens for $999.95
    and body alone for $919.95 but both still "out of stock"
    Charles Gillen, Sep 13, 2006
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    Paul Mitchum Guest

    Nice catch. I hope it's a prism, as well.

    One wishes Pentax were better at this kind of marketing stuff. When they
    announced the K100 and K110, they announced that both had pentamirrors,
    even though one has a prism, and the viewfinder material was really the
    only difference between the two.
    Paul Mitchum, Sep 13, 2006
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    Paul Mitchum Guest

    What's wrong with wanting an even *brighter* viewfinder? :) Since the
    bright viewfinder is one of the main distinguishing characteristics of
    any Pentax SLR, it seems they'd go all the way with a pentaprism this
    go-round, especially since this model is more 'pro' oriented. Next year
    a pentamirror for lowered production costs.
    Paul Mitchum, Sep 13, 2006
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