Pentax new sealed DSLR looks better and better.....

Discussion in 'Pentax' started by RichA, Nov 5, 2006.

  1. RichA

    RichA Guest

    RichA, Nov 5, 2006
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  2. Well, if anybody would know about crap...
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Nov 5, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    Pete D, Nov 5, 2006
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  4. Charles Schuler, Nov 5, 2006
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    Prometheus Guest

    Er'm, immersing your camera in salt water and the leaving it to corrode
    is a bad idea. Of course if your are stupid spending more on a camera
    designed for stupid people is a good idea, the rest of us will spend the
    money on improving the photographs and accept the risk of damage to the
    camera.
     
    Prometheus, Nov 5, 2006
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  6. RichA

    Bill Guest

    No kidding.

    And what's even worse is that Rich actually seems to believe that
    environmental seals would prevent this kind of damage. He's completely
    wrong since the seals are NOT water proof, they are water resistant.
    The seals are designed only to help prevent damage from incidental
    rainfall and dusty environments, not for submersion in the ocean.
    There are specialized cameras and/or underwater housings available
    that will keep the camera safe when submerged.

    I couldn't find a K10D manual on the Pentax Imaging site, so I'll use
    another well known camera with weather seals as an example. From the
    Nikon D200 manual under the Caring for the camera section:

    "Keep dry This product is not waterproof, and may mal-function if
    immersed in water or exposed to high levels of humidity"

    But hey, if Rich wants to drop a Pentax K10D (or any other weather
    sealed camera) into the ocean to test his theory, and post the
    results, good luck to him.
     
    Bill, Nov 6, 2006
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    Bill Crocker Guest

    Bill Crocker, Nov 6, 2006
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  8. RichA

    RichA Guest

    There is an account of a guy who dropped a 1DsMkII into a pool of
    water, it was submerged and yet apparently suffered no internal damage
    or leakage. Weather sealing is rated at different levels.
    But SOME sealing is better than NO sealing.
     
    RichA, Nov 6, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    Looks like the K10D manual that was on the UK site has been pulled, here is
    one that I have though. ;-)

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/pete_with_pentax/285444496/
     
    Pete D, Nov 6, 2006
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  10. RichA

    Pete D Guest

    The standard lenses are not sealed anyway so unless you also buy the new
    sealed lenses it will not do much.
     
    Pete D, Nov 6, 2006
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  11. RichA

    Pete D Guest

    Pete D, Nov 6, 2006
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    Bill Guest

    Well golly gee Rich, there are rare accounts of cars hitting large
    transport trucks head on at 60mph, being totally demolished, and the
    car driver walking away with just a few minor scratches from broken
    glass.

    But that does NOT mean you should slam your car into the grill of a
    truck and expect to walk away.
    That's not what you suggested in your original post.
    Another good point.
     
    Bill, Nov 6, 2006
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  13. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Maybe it'll float?
     
    RichA, Nov 6, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    Well you can't have it both ways, make up your mind.
     
    Pete D, Nov 6, 2006
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  15. RichA

    RichA Guest

    If you have to make do with the best of a group, then pick the one with
    the least flaws.
    And here is why:
    -Nikon D80 no IS no dust cleaning
    -Canon Rebel XTi rotten ergonomics
    -Sony A100 noisiest images of the group
    -Olympus E-400 MIA North America
    -Olympus E-3 still no word
    -Olympus E-440 (still a rumour)
    -Pentax K10D best spec'd, larger, more comfortable to use, build
    quality (for plastic)
    seems to be at the level of the Nikon. And to the original post
    subject line, it is weather sealed.

    The only step up at this moment from them is the Nikon D200 which is
    likely to undergo some changes soon (Maybe it'll be the D200s?). The
    argument can be made that the 20D and 30D are better choices, despite
    the lower pixel counts and the 20D is now almost or as cheap as the
    Nikon D80 depending on where you buy it.

    Would any of the plastic 10s be as robust as the E-1? No. But then
    the E-1 cost about $1700 for the body when was introduced.
     
    RichA, Nov 7, 2006
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  16. Funny, the D200 has neither dust cleaning, nor built-in IS, yet you claim
    it is a step up from the D80. Maybe you need to work a little bit more
    on that table.
     
    Philip Homburg, Nov 8, 2006
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  17. RichA

    RichA Guest

    But it is sealed and it is better built. You could also go through the
    specs and see how it compares in every dept. to the D80.
     
    RichA, Nov 8, 2006
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  18. In that case you should have listed the lack of sealing or the built
    quality of the D80.
     
    Philip Homburg, Nov 8, 2006
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  19. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Why? I was only referencing the current crop of plastic 10 megs and
    the Nikon is number 1 or maybe 2 out of that group when it comes to
    build quality.
     
    RichA, Nov 9, 2006
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    Tom Ross Guest

    Why? That's an unreasonable expectation. After all, Rich is making
    this up as he goes. I have seen no evidence he has ever handled a
    Nikon outside the safe, secure confines of Henry's....

    TR
     
    Tom Ross, Nov 9, 2006
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