People who put expensive lenses on "lesser" cameras

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by RichA, Jul 11, 2007.

  1. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Rather than putting say medium quality lenses on bodies with better
    sensors.
    Ever wonder why someone would put a $2000 on a run of the mill 6-10
    megapixel DSLR when they would buy a better DSLR and outfit it with
    medium quality lenses? Put another way, which would you rather
    produce images with:
    A $3000 Canon 5D body and a $500 Canon lens, or a $700 XTi and a $2800
    lens? Some people amass a large collection of high grade lenses and
    they are using them on entry or medium level bodies. In the time of
    SLRs, it could have made sense. Get the lens stable you need because
    film is film and the SLR was just a transport, some being a bit more
    comprehensive than others, but in-terms of image quality of most
    subjects, the film and lens determined 99% of the outcome.

    But someone with and XTi is not going to match a 5Ds image quality,
    ever, so does it make sense to go the cheap body, expensive lens route
    unless some of those lenses provided specific attributes you couldn't
    duplicate if you bought the 5D body and then didn't have the funds to
    build the lens collection?
     
    RichA, Jul 11, 2007
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    ASAAR Guest

    Rather than reading the rest of your post, I'd like to ask . . .

    Rich, will you ever do something about this addiction or yours?
     
    ASAAR, Jul 11, 2007
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  3. <the usual bullshit snipped>

    Do you lay awake at night thinking up this crap?
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Jul 11, 2007
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    frederick Guest

    What a load of cr@p.
    Someone good with an XTi will make far better images as a matter of
    course than someone merely average with a 5d.
    Perhaps what more people need to do is use the gear they've got instead
    of fretting endlessly over whether it's up to the task.
    Idiot posts like yours are probably the main inspiration for Ken
    Rockwell's rants.
     
    frederick, Jul 11, 2007
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    Tom Ross Guest

    [crap snipped]
    While I wouldn't mind owning a 5D or one of the other current models,
    I'm not planning to replace my four year-old Rebel any time soon. If I
    did have $2800 to spend on equipment, I would spend it on glass.

    [more crap snipped]
    Are you actually trying to say there is something wrong with putting a
    top-of-the-line lens on something other than a top-of-the-line body?
    Are you that big a maroon? Were you trying to out-idiot yourself with
    this article?


    TR
     
    Tom Ross, Jul 11, 2007
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    JoeT Guest

    How bass akwards can you possibly get it? You don't know which of these
    combinations will net better image quality? Either this post was 100% troll
    bait or you've got serious cognitive issues.
     
    JoeT, Jul 11, 2007
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    Jay B Guest

    Fish On...
     
    Jay B, Jul 11, 2007
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    John Bean Guest

    He usually just does a cut'n'paste of other people's crap
    rather than trying to jump-start his brain, but this seems
    to be of his own making. I'm not sure which is worse but I
    certainly won't lose sleep over it.
     
    John Bean, Jul 11, 2007
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  9. This is why following the 18-month rule is so important. Remember, the
    lenses will/should last a lifetime while a dSLR body is the only disposable
    item in the equation. The only people that get burned are the ones thinking
    they are saving money by keeping a dSLR body past its "Use By" date.





    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Jul 11, 2007
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  10. If I had a 5D then the basic $100 Canon 50/1.8 lens would be quite a good
    combo as it would work like a 35mm lens due to the crop factor.
     
    Adrian Boliston, Jul 11, 2007
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  11. My D70s is coming up to it's "use by" date which is a bit worrying, as if I
    sell it on ebay and get a D80 then I would still have to find about $400 or
    so.
     
    Adrian Boliston, Jul 11, 2007
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  12. Don't worry Adrian. Your D70s will still work perfectly well and
    produce pictures every bit as good as those is does at the moment.

    Doc
     
    Dr Hfuhruhurr, Jul 11, 2007
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    Doug Jewell Guest

    Since when does a dslr body have a "Use By" date? If it took good photos
    yesterday, it will take good photos today, and will continue to take good
    photos tomorrow, unless something goes wrong with it. They only become
    out-dated when the owner decides he wants the latest fandangled thing, or it
    wears out. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a 300D or a 10D. Even
    though they are now ancient history and have only half the resolution of the
    5D, they will still take a photo just as good as they did when they were
    new. I remember people raving about the photo quality of the 10D when it
    launched - just because you can now get better, doesn't mean the 10D is now
    crap.
     
    Doug Jewell, Jul 11, 2007
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    Doug Jewell Guest

    I would disagree with your statement that the XTI is never going to match a
    5D in quality. A good lens on the XTI will beat a bad lens on the 5D any
    day. An XTI in the hands of a good photographer, will beat a 5D in the hands
    of a bad photographer any day.
    The 5D does have some strengths over the XTI, but those strengths will only
    show in certain situations.
    For example, the 5D has better resolution than the XTI - but there isn't a
    huge difference between 10MP and 13MP, and both are more than capable of
    showing up flaws in a bad lens.
    The 5D has lower noise at high ISO than the XTI, but with the camera price
    difference you could buy a lens 1-2 stops faster, so you can use lower ISO
    anyway.
    Yes the 5D benefits from being full frame, so if ultra-wide or fish-eye is
    your thing then it makes a better choice, but again that is countered by the
    XTI being 1.6x crop, so if telephoto is your thing you'll get a 480mm
    equivalent lens for the price and size of a 300mm.
    Ultimately the choice would depend on what you do with the camera, but in
    general I'd rather have a better lens on a lesser camera, than a lesser lens
    on a better camera.
     
    Doug Jewell, Jul 11, 2007
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  15. How exactly am I saving money by buying a 5D to replace my perfectly
    acceptable 300D?
     
    Michael Johnson, Jul 11, 2007
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    Tomm101 Guest


    A 70-200 f2.8 IS on a 400XTi will make a better image than 70-300
    f4-5.6 on an XTi, glass is always a good investment. In 5 years the
    70-200 will be worth $1000-$1200, the XTi will be worth squat.
    Throwing the 5D into to this is a red herring, whether the 70-200 will
    make a better pic than the XTi is up to the photographer. Yes the 5D
    is a better camera than an XTi, but good glass will help that lowly
    body.

    Tom
     
    Tomm101, Jul 11, 2007
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    Tony Polson Guest


    D'oh!

    The 50mm is always a 50mm lens, regardless of what camera it is
    mounted on. The focal length does not change.

    On a Rebel XTi or 30D, it gives the same angle of view as an 80mm lens
    on a 35mm film camera. On a 5D, it gives the same angle of view as a
    50mm lens on a 35mm film camera, because the 5D has a full frame
    sensor.
     
    Tony Polson, Jul 11, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    And it's image quality would blow away the lesser breeds. This is
    clear.
     
    RichA, Jul 11, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    Who said bad lens? $500 will buy a decent lens, not their $99 kit
    lens.
     
    RichA, Jul 11, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    Why are you introducing the photographer's abillity as a variable?
     
    RichA, Jul 11, 2007
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