[photo] chicks eyeing me off

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by Troy Piggins, Apr 28, 2008.

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    Rob. Guest

    Rob., Apr 28, 2008
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    G'day Rob. A Robin? Well I've had a shocker there. Thought it
    looked like a finch. I'm not that good with birds... obviously.

    Is it not a particularly good shot /because/ it's a bit soft, or
    compositionally? The exposure seems ok to me.
    Troy Piggins, Apr 28, 2008
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    Helen Guest

    It looks like an English Robin, Troy. Beautiful little bird. I like
    this shot. The tiniest bit soft, but I don't find it distracting. I
    think the focus was perfect, but just a bit of camera shake due to
    using a long lens and not a fast enough shutter speed.
    It's still a lovely shot.
    Helen, Apr 28, 2008
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    Thanks Helen. Possibly the female or juvenile of "Rockin Robin"
    I posted few weeks ago?

    Troy Piggins, Apr 28, 2008
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    Rob. Guest


    I like the composition the branch seems to lead through the image. Bird
    looking into the image.

    The bird is not sharp, even around the eye area. 400mm at 5.6/640 most
    likely hand held or the lens had condensation for that soft focus :)
    pommie weather.
    Rob., Apr 28, 2008
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    I see. Thanks Rob. Only just got a lens long enough and
    starting out with bird shots. Need all the help I can get :)
    Troy Piggins, Apr 28, 2008
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  13. G'day, Troy - nice work, but yes, it does look softish.

    Just curious, what post-proc have you done? The part that deducts
    most points for me is the 'watercolour' look of his chest. It looks a
    bit like the feather detail has been lost due to a resizing/sharpening/
    NR problem, and that might also explain the overall soft look - it
    doesn't really look like significant o-o-f or camera shake (and
    believe me, I am an expert at recognising which is which, in all my
    stuffed images!). I suspect that with more careful resizing and
    sharpening you might be able to get a much crisper result.. can we
    get at a full-res original to experiment with? (or a crop of the
    birdie would do..)

    Altho' maybe he was just shaking himself a little, as they tend to
    do... (O:
    mark.thomas.7, Apr 29, 2008
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    G'day Mark
    Good eye mate. I did apply some NR to it - trying out a GIMP
    noise reduction script. Also cropped it vertically to get rid of
    wasted space.

    Just looked at the original and there is a little more
    detail/sharpness in the chest, but still soft. But looks noisy
    at 100%.

    Here is the full-sized original with just some curves work,
    unsharpened but saved to 85% quality to get the file size down:

    Troy Piggins, Apr 29, 2008
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    Rob. Guest

    Mark hit the nail on the head with the noise reduction bit.

    Thats much better I put a heap of smart sharpen through and I can now
    see the eyes, feathers, feet look good, detail in the branch etc. It did
    bring up the noise in the background tho which can be reduced

    There are methods to reduce the noise using layers. placing a blur on
    the top one and making a hole through it to see the sharpened bird.

    With the colours, the beak looked very blue/green cast whereas the
    larger image is more neutral - keep playing with the curves.

    Rob., Apr 29, 2008
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    Ssshhh. He'll get a big head :)
    Yeah, I've played with that.
    Thanks Rob, and Mark.
    Troy Piggins, Apr 29, 2008
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    Mark Thomas Guest

    Too late!! (O:

    One day soon, I'll be as good as that other demiGod who posts here -
    have you seen his latest wedding shot? I'm in awe....
    My/our pleasure. (But Rob stole my thunder and covered it perfectly
    (sigh), so I won't bother re-doing your original - you know what to do
    now, Luke - just use the Force..)
    Mark Thomas, Apr 30, 2008
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    It occurs to me that I am being very rude, asking you post it and then
    not doing what I said.. Shame on me!

    I don't have time right hereabouts, but I shall return later to honour
    my words.


    (don't you just hate that sms crap... :eek:)
    Mark Thomas, Apr 30, 2008
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