Photo of dying marine: was it right for AP to publish?

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Kulvinder Singh Matharu, Sep 7, 2009.

  1. Came across this article about AP publishing a photo of a dying US
    marine and the controversy surrounding it. There hasn't been much
    news here in the UK about it but I expect that it's big news in the
    US.

    <http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/53173...it-right-for-the-associated-press-to-publish>

    I'm all up for showing how things are and the press have done so on
    may occasions, but at the same time the family must be very upset. So
    I'm in two minds about this. Storm in a tea cup? Or genuine concern
    on showing dead or dying NATO/ISAF soldiers?
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    Kulvinder Singh Matharu, Sep 7, 2009
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    stephe_k Guest


    I feel images like this might make just some of the "pro war" people
    realize that yes fighting wars does cost lives. Shots of soldiers lined
    up in a parade might be more pleasant but isn't reality.

    Stephanie
     
    stephe_k, Sep 8, 2009
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  3. This is the first I heard about it. During the 60's and 70's is was
    perfectly common practice to show all the atrocities of war. But the
    right-wing scum are too afraid of showing anyone the truth these days. It's
    how they're able to perpetuate their stupidity and insanity, by not making
    it clear to the world. They're too insecure and afraid to show their true
    face and all they have "accomplished" to the world.
    So ... let me get this straight .... It's okay to photograph them killing
    someone and publishing it without asking, but not okay to photograph them
    being killed and publishing it without asking. Have I got that correct now?
     
    Clancy Clarity, Sep 8, 2009
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  4. Amen.
     
    David Nebenzahl, Sep 8, 2009
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  5. ....And if the picture was of you --> and the last memory your children
    would have of you, would it still be okay to publish it?





    In <>, on
    09/07/2009
    at 05:25 PM, Annika1980 <> said:
     
    Igetrightwingersangry, Sep 8, 2009
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  6. Most certainly. I'd love nothing better than to show them and give them
    proof of what happens when you unknowingly become nothing but a
    corporate-pawn under the guise of "protecting freedom".
     
    Reality Bytes, Sep 8, 2009
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    And after all, telling the taxpayers how their money is being spent
    cannot have any relevance. When neocons and rightards want to kill
    people there can be no criticism tolerated.
     
    Ray Fischer, Sep 8, 2009
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    That's a rightard lie. It was Bush and the neocons who started the war.
    The soldier was there on the taxpayer's dime. The taxpayers have the
    right to know how their money is being spent.
     
    Ray Fischer, Sep 8, 2009
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    There is nothing decent about war. What you want is to hide
    the cost of the war that you want fought.
     
    Ray Fischer, Sep 8, 2009
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    ^Tems^ Guest

    So why the big deal all of the sudden about a war photo?

    Why is any different to old black and white photos of soldiers torn
    apart on the battle field of WW1 or the Aussie soldier blindfolded on
    his knees with a japanese soldier raising the sword above his head to
    decapitate him or images of Jews being executed in front of mass grave
    pits or that Viet cong dude being shot in the head.

    What about websites like rotten.com or ogrish showing photos of car
    accidents or murders, sometime in the futre the families of these
    victims may come across them.

    We are now in the communication age thanks to the internet, the only way
    to stop images like this being published is to ban cameras.

    Humans have a morbid curiosity for images like this.
     
    ^Tems^, Sep 8, 2009
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    Apteryx Guest

    So clearly not yet then

    Apteryx
     
    Apteryx, Sep 8, 2009
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    stephe_k Guest

    Of course I would. Since when is dying for your country something to
    hide or be ashamed of?

    Stephanie
     
    stephe_k, Sep 8, 2009
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    stephe_k Guest

    Well they did show those from Iraq, the burned guys hanging. Was that
    the left wing too?

    Stephanie
     
    stephe_k, Sep 8, 2009
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  14. Son, I bet you never served or saw war face to face. If you had, you
    would like it so much.




    In <h84dfl$225$>, on 09/07/2009
    at 08:53 PM, Doug McDonald <> said:
     
    Igetrightwingersangry, Sep 8, 2009
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  15. Community Organizer, Sep 8, 2009
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    J. Clarke Guest

    Nobody likes it, but propaganda intended to promote "bring our boys home
    regardless of the cost" agenda isn't serving anybody but those Iraqis who
    want to be the next Saddam.
     
    J. Clarke, Sep 8, 2009
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    J. Clarke Guest

    It's only "wasted" if that Marine's life was spent to no purpose, and if the
    US pulls out before there is a stable government in place that is strong
    enough to keep the lid on then that Marine's life _will_ have been wasted.

    That's the real tragedy of Vietnam, that so many lives were spent delaying a
    result that would have just happened 10 years sooner if there were no US
    involvement.
     
    J. Clarke, Sep 8, 2009
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    ^Tems^ Guest

    You must really care for your buddys if they are dying in front of you
    and you and you are more concerned about someone with a camera 50 feet
    away over trying to save their lives.
     
    ^Tems^, Sep 8, 2009
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    J. Clarke Guest

    Remember all the coverage Hanoi Jane got? How about all the coverage of
    antiwar rallys? How about the daily body count? Sorry, but the US press
    was played expertly by the North Vietnamese.
     
    J. Clarke, Sep 8, 2009
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    Ghetta Gryp Guest

    No, it's all about how the middle-east has perfected the art of
    self-victimization to control you. Just as you are again allowing all those
    of the middle-east to control your posts and infecting these newsgroups
    with your off-topic crap.

    Keep being a patsy for the middle-east cultures. They live for this, this
    is all they have going for them. If not for this then all they'd have is
    sand and rocks and a 4th-world culture that nobody wants to even know about
    because they have absolutely no redeeming values for over 3000 years.

    The whole region could be turned into a sea-of-glass by using atomic
    weaponry and not one other culture in the world would really care if it
    happened. Other than some fall-out. The cure would be well worth it. Doing
    away with a whole civilization that has done nothing but manipulate the
    world with their self-victimization for over 3000 years. Never adding ONE
    THING to the advancement of any other culture, especially their own.
    They're losers. Always have been, always will be. Like trolls, pretend they
    don't exist and they'll go away to kill themselves.
     
    Ghetta Gryp, Sep 8, 2009
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