Photo Printer: Home Printer, or WalMart?

Discussion in 'Photography' started by frank, Dec 11, 2004.

  1. frank

    BillB Guest

    While not proving that you've finally gotten something right, the
    fact that you're a known master baiter for once allows you to toss
    off a statement without it immediately being rejected out of hand.
    BillB, Dec 12, 2004
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  2. frank

    Carl Guest

    Wrong again. You really don't get it do you?

    Film, Arghhhh!
    Carl, Dec 12, 2004
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  3. frank

    Dr. Di Guest

    The ink jets I'm familiar with vary the size of the drop as a result of
    firmware controlled modulation of the pulse width. Equal sized drops would
    not produce the image quality currently seen in better ink jets.

    To be fair in this discussion, not all ink jets use the heated 'bubble
    jet' technology that you describe.. Epson for one uses a Piezoelectric
    mechanism which doesn't employ heat to eject the drop.

    As to the definition of a Color Photograph, I'd say it's a realistic
    facsimile of an original scene capturing as much detail , color space, and
    tonal quality, that a reasonable compromise of cost, quality, permanence,
    and ease of use provides within the limitations of our current

    Have a very Merry Christmas!

    Dr. Di, Dec 12, 2004
  4. frank

    Steven Wandy Guest

    With a couple cents per print ink cost, it comes out to slightly
    Which Epson printer are you getting "a couple of cents per print"?
    I have the R800 and while your $15 for the 4x6 is accurate, I am certain
    that my cost per print for ink is definitely more than a couple of cents.
    Steven Wandy, Dec 13, 2004
  5. frank

    BigMike631 Guest

    Simple answer is no. They cant compete in either category but there is
    reasons to have a printer that lets say does up to 8x10's...To be able
    to run some quick prints off here and there.. When you dont feel like
    running to wallmart or costco... I still go to costco and will continue
    to do so though lately they havnt done such a bang up job... in Every
    size category Costco will be cheaper then doing them yourself. But I
    still want the ability to make a print immediately!

    I had an epson and recently (today) bought a canon. Reason, I will
    receive a rebate card of $100 with the purchase of my last camera. I
    bought the printer by the way at best buy... for $119 ($30) gift card
    from best buy. So the printer cost me $19... I only had to buy a $1500
    camera ;-). The epson was on its last legs anyway...

    I also use a laser for text...
    BigMike631, Dec 13, 2004
  6. frank

    BillB Guest

    Correction. You didn't buy a Canon printer. What you bought was
    an inexpensive $19 device designed to consume vast quantities of
    much more costly ink and paper. If the canon came with ink, you
    could also say that you bought $19 worth of ink (possibly at a good
    discount) and the store threw in a printer at no extra cost. :)
    BillB, Dec 13, 2004
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    RicSeyler Guest

    RicSeyler, Dec 15, 2004
  8. frank

    RicSeyler Guest

    Dot Matrix was used to describe the old contact pin printers using a ribbon
    with a 90deg angle dot pattern. Halftone (Postscript and PCL) printers
    use round
    dots at different angles and sizes and frequencies (generally 45deg angle)
    for monotone output. Inkjets use a stochastic pattern (varying shapes
    and sizes)
    to create the image. Dye Sublimation ribbon printers lay down a
    continuous tone
    image just like a chemical processed film photo. All are completely
    approaches to fooling the eye. Some better than others..

    Even running a Postscript RIP on an inkjet will still give you a
    stochastic pattern
    and not a true dot.
    RicSeyler, Dec 15, 2004
  9. frank

    RicSeyler Guest

    The paper is the just as an important part of the equation as the
    printer is.
    You have to find which paper performs best with your inkjet printer.
    And I've found that branding doesn't always follow.. HP Printer & HP Paper.
    Epson Printer & Epson Paper.

    I probably spend more on paper in my shop than inks for customer photo
    I've found out over the years that AO100 inks perform better than the Epson
    inks in my Stylus 3000. And they are much cheaper. But in my Epson 1280 the
    Durabright inks perform best. And in my Dye Sub converted Epson 1280 the
    IQ dyes works the best.

    For 8.5x11/11x17 high quality output I think the Epson Photo
    Glossy/Photo Matte
    perform better on my machines -vs- Kodak/HP papers.
    But on 17x22 output off the 3000, Valentine Glossy/Matte works much better
    than anything from Epson/HP/Kodak.

    I guess the point to my rambling is that without quality paper even the
    pest printers perform
    at a mediocre level.
    RicSeyler, Dec 15, 2004
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