Photoholics Anonymous

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by 1greenthumb, Nov 9, 2006.

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    1greenthumb Guest

    I just wanted to let everyone know that I have started up a new Google
    Group. Feel free to join up if you like and post your photos. I
    designed the group to be a place for photographers to get feedback on
    their work and exchange ideas. Post whatever you like... here is the
    1greenthumb, Nov 9, 2006
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    Smee Guest

    Oh wow another group.
    Smee, Nov 9, 2006
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    1greenthumb Guest

    Yeah I know... but it is really progressing quite well for only being
    around a few days. Google groups beta is way better than the original.
    You can create pages like in Google page creator so it really works
    for a photography group.
    1greenthumb, Nov 10, 2006
  4. "way better than the original" what?
    Andrew Hennell, Nov 10, 2006
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    1greenthumb Guest

    Better than the original "google groups" format, have you viewed groups
    in beta yet?
    1greenthumb, Nov 10, 2006
  6. Yes, I viewed the groups-beta site. Didn't float my boat, and I'm yet
    to see how it's "better". Sure it has lots of extra stuff to distract
    me from conversing with fellow photography enthusiasts. Does that make
    it better? [shrug]

    What's wrong with my newsreader and usenet? If you want the original,
    it's still functioning damned well and serving its purpose.
    Andrew Hennell, Nov 10, 2006
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    1greenthumb Guest

    I think that the biggest bonus is that you can post photographs on the
    group so you don't have to leave the group just to view someone's
    photos. Each user can design their own page on the group, all of the
    options work just like google page creator if you are familar with
    that. This way you can recieve comments on your photos right on the
    group and you can also collaborate to create a "main page" highlighting
    everyones work in the group. I am viewing this group in beta and it
    doesn't show any of these new options, I am not sure why....

    1greenthumb, Nov 10, 2006
  8. You can top-post too!

    You might like those 'features', but they don't in themselves make it
    'better' for everyone.
    There are other established sites that do what you have there, pbase for
    instance, with communities of thousands of photographers who lend
    critical commentary to uploaded photographs.
    And, as I said before, usenet has served me well since about 1993, so I
    don't see much need to change it.
    Good luck with your website, but keep the spamming down - if it's as
    good as you say, it'll grow naturally.
    Andrew Hennell, Nov 10, 2006
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    1greenthumb Guest

    Well I guess instead of have thousand of users, mine only has 8 as of
    now : ) maybe that is the advantage I have. I do appologize if you
    consider some of this to be spam, I am just trying to promote my new
    group and I feel that this is the best way to do it. I did a post on
    this group and a post on one other group... I do not see this as spam,
    but "To each his own". Thanks for your responses....
    1greenthumb, Nov 10, 2006
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    Alan K. Guest

    Weeeell... not EVERYONE considered it spam anyway. It was a single
    on-topic thread pointing to your photographic group, so it's not like
    it was a daily or weekly thing. I'm not really interested in joining
    up; as Andrew said, the combination of Usenet and sites like pBase
    make for a good balance of discussion and display already. (For those
    of us who have managed to extract our digits and get a pBase or other
    account anyway, which I must get around to next week but I digress.)
    However what I personally am or am not interested in is not the
    barometer of what constitutes spam. 8^>

    (Hmmm... wonder if I should be worried that I got an "Adult Content
    Warning" when I clicked on the link! 8^> )

    Aside from which you showed some interest in discussing it, which
    rates more highly (to me at least) than some people who post links to
    their galleries and then never join in the resulting discussions.
    (Even Le Roscha, to give him his due, does join in the discussions
    these days, despite the amount of merde that gets dumped on him
    regularly.) But there have been some instances in the past where
    someone would post about their gallery and that would be it; there
    would be no responses from them, even to people who indicated that
    they had a problem connecting to it. Their sole interest would appear
    to be to generate traffic for their site to feed some kind of
    stat-aholicism, and you have to wonder whether they even READ the
    responses. All take, no give.

    As for your group itself, I have to admit that I find the lack of
    consistency in the linking to be disturbing. At the time of writing it
    showed three sample pictures on the main page, each with its own
    caption. Below that are links to "Pages", "Discussions" and "Files".

    On a site like pBase, if you click on one of the randomly selected
    images on the main page you know that you'll go to the thumbnails for
    that photographer's gallery. With your group, however, clicking on the
    photo and clicking on the caption below takes you on a mystery tour.
    In each case clicking on the photo takes you to the full sized photo.
    (Except that when I clicked on the "A Nature Photo Album" one, only
    the top third or so of the photo loaded despite attempts to refresh
    the page, which may be taking the rule of thirds to an extreme.)
    However there was no consistency at all in where the caption links
    take you. "Pauls Pic's" (sic) and "A Nature Photo Album" take you to
    the same links that will be found in the "Pages" section, but the
    "Nature's Wallpaper" caption takes you to an external site.

    I t may be just me, but I find the need to look at the status bar to
    determine where I'm going to end up if I click as being... a tad
    awkward. And the fact that clicking on an image and clicking on its
    caption takes you to entirely different locations is... disorienting.
    But as I said, that may just be me.
    Alan K., Nov 11, 2006
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    1greenthumb Guest

    Hmm I do see your point on a couple of the issues that you brought up.
    The idea of the welcome screen was to have a single picture of each
    persons work and underneath it would be a link to their page inside of
    the group... I did not follow this as my picture did take you to an
    outside link, I have corrected that so it takes you to my page inside
    the group. The other two links below the pictures do take you to the
    artists corresponding page inside the group. I think this will work as
    more people develop their pages inside the group. I have not used
    pBase so I not really familar with how this works, I just thought this
    would be a good idea for people to gain a little exposure to their
    sites through google groups.

    I am not sure if there is a way to make it so when you click on the
    picture it goes straight to their page, but that certainly is a good
    idea and I will work on it...

    As for the over 18 thing, I think that was a setting when I set up the
    group and I cannot change it now... Maybe that keeps people guessing :
    ) Thanks again for the feeback it ceratinly help and I do appreciate

    Weeeell... not EVERYONE considered it spam anyway. It was a single
    1greenthumb, Nov 11, 2006
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