[photos] Dubai

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by Troy Piggins, Apr 18, 2008.

  1. Troy Piggins

    Troy Piggins Guest

    Gone back through my Dubai photos from recent stopover. I'm a bit
    torn with photos I take while travelling. They're a mix of happy
    snaps recording something I did while travelling, photos of cool
    things I saw, and some photos where I really tried to get a good
    photo.

    This page is a mix of these:
    http://piggo.com/~troy/photos.php?album=2008_03_22

    I'd really like to learn/practise how to get the number of happy
    snaps down and quality up. Even if it is just recording something
    cool I saw, I do try to keep composition in mind if I can.

    If you have some spare time, I'd appreciate your comments on these
    photos. Let me know what you would have done different. What do
    you pros/experienced photogs take photos of when travelling? Do you
    end up with happy snaps and that's fine?

    Please excuse the ugly buggers in 3 of the shots.

    img_6468.jpg I know is a bit centred. Long story, but I really
    rushed that shot because we sort of snuck around a security guard
    protecting that view to only hotel guests and I reeled off a few
    hand held before he escorted us back to the common people's area :(

    I quite like the other night shots. Used tripod. Particularly 6464
    which I've posted here before I think.

    Which one is your fav?
     
    Troy Piggins, Apr 18, 2008
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    Zot Guest

    Troy Piggins wrote,on my timestamp of 18/04/2008 5:00 PM:
    Try, there is *nothing* wrong with taking happy snaps,
    that is why the word "happy" is there: they remind us
    of a happy or momentous occasion, whatever it might be.
    The notion that every shot taken has to be an arty-farty
    one or Pullitzer prize material is totally demented!
    Pretty much. Here are a few examples from my latest trip:
    http://wizofoz2k.deviantart.com/art/medieval-top-81939749
    http://wizofoz2k.deviantart.com/art/such-big-teeth-you-have-81939419
    http://wizofoz2k.deviantart.com/art/relaxing-81938532
    http://wizofoz2k.deviantart.com/art/Battling-the-sea-81685467
    http://wizofoz2k.deviantart.com/art/the-soul-of-the-tree-81059900
    nothing prizey, but each one of them evokes strong
    memories and in one case at least, emotions.
    Nothing wrong with that!



    This one:
    http://piggo.com/~troy/photos/2008_03_22/1280/img_6449.jpg
    why? well it needs to be slightly de-tilted to the left
    and it might appear mundane. But it is a view of reality of
    Dubai city up close. Instead of another one of the millions
    of skyscraper and burj-al-arab postcards - puke!
     
    Zot, Apr 18, 2008
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  3. Hi,
    i mainly agree with "Zot" here, take happy snaps and bingo.
    When looking at your shots some things came to my mind:

    - buy a polarizer filter to attach to your lens, this would greatly improve
    shots like img_6420.jpg to get a blue, saturated sky - if you shoot RAW, try
    to bring down lights a bit, some of the shots tend to be a bit overexposed,
    i use a 20D and normally use exposure correction of -1/3 or even -2/3.
    - you seem to love wide angle shots, try to use a correction filter or tool
    like shift n (http://www.shiftn.de/ english description available) to get
    rid of those annoying converging lines and tilts. Images like img_6416.jpg
    really suffer from that. Also, always try to rotate images like img_6419.jpg
    to make them aligned horizontally - it´s just a few clicks, and a heavily
    sloping image like this will always make it look "amateurish".
    - i really like your night shoots!

    Happy shooting!
    Markus
     
    Markus Fuenfrocken, Apr 18, 2008
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  4. Troy Piggins

    Helen Guest


    I am by no means a pro Troy, but FWIW I can give my humble opinion.
    My fav. is 6452. I would have walked up closer to the sidewalk to get
    the road and sewer out of the pic. But you can crop the bottom part
    out to either the sidewalk or the waters edge. With tourists all over
    the place, it's hard not to get them in the shot. But it's a really
    nice, classic wide angle shot.
    Helen
     
    Helen, Apr 18, 2008
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  5. Troy Piggins

    Troy Piggins Guest

    Thanks Helen. I quite like that one too when I was taking it,
    but in hindsight think it's too centred. Agree about the
    foregnd. Thanks for the comment! :)
     
    Troy Piggins, Apr 18, 2008
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  6. Troy Piggins

    Troy Piggins Guest

    True, and thanks for the reinforcement.
    It's funny how simple images evoke strong memories, isn't it? I
    have this photo of Kristy (fiance) from when she just came out of
    theatre for a shoulder operation. She's still half drugged,
    oxygen hose coming out of her nose, hair all over the place, eyes
    half closed and this big dopey grin on her face. It's by far my
    favourite photo of her because she looks so innocent and cute in
    it, and I was just so relieved she came out of the op fine.
    Thanks for that! Embarrassed now I have quite a few of those
    (puke) Burj-al-Arab photos. But... I am a structural engineer so
    the construction there is a big reason I was drawn to the city in
    the first place. :)

    Thanks for taking the time, mate.
     
    Troy Piggins, Apr 18, 2008
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  7. Troy Piggins

    Troy Piggins Guest

    Actually I have a CP filter, but must confess to not using it
    enough - probably inexperience in knowing /when/ to use it.

    Regarding the sky there - don't know if you've been but it's
    bloody frustrating doing cityscapes. There's this very thick
    dust/sand haze. Couldn't figure out if it's from the
    construction work going on everywhere, or just because of the
    proximity of the desert. You'll notice all the palm tree fronds
    look greyish? Everything is covered in this sandy dust. You can
    really notice the haze causing the glow in the night shots.

    Thanks for the tips on overexposure.
    Haven't come across that software. Will look into it. Author
    Marcus Hebel? You? :)
    Thanks. To date I do try to fix horizons on better shots that
    are worth the time, but I haven't spent that much time
    straightening converging buildings from the ultra-wide angle
    fisheye type effect.
    Thanks. I'm glad I did take the tripod :)
    Always happy shooting :)
    Thanks Markus!
     
    Troy Piggins, Apr 18, 2008
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  8. Troy Piggins

    Troy Piggins Guest

    Never mind. I hadn't noticed your surname at top of your post.
    Sorry.
    <snip />
     
    Troy Piggins, Apr 18, 2008
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  9. Troy Piggins

    Troy Piggins Guest

    Man. Just seconds into playing with that free software and it's
    bloody amazing! Literally just open those leaning building
    cityscapes and click on the automatic correction button gives
    good results.

    Must... play... more...
     
    Troy Piggins, Apr 18, 2008
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  10. It is German Genius at work.
    I worked for AGFA for 10 years. They are amazingily brilliant people.

    Lg
     
    Lawrence Glickman, Apr 18, 2008
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  11. Troy Piggins

    Troy Piggins Guest

    They certainly are up there, particularly in the open-source
    community - very active contributors. I'd have to put them at
    the second smartest nation behind Australia :)
     
    Troy Piggins, Apr 19, 2008
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  12. I attribute this to their rigorous schooling. What passes for a *high
    school education* in Germany is equivalent to a *college* education in
    the USA.

    IIRC, they call it Gymnasium or somesuch. IIRC. Now they proceed on
    to University, which is really something beyond amazing. It is
    equivalent to getting a Doctorate degree in the USA. So if you meet
    someone with a Doctorate degree in Germany, you are meeting an Expert
    with a capital E.

    All the time...they maintain an enormous amount of humility, but do
    not let that betray the genius that is in their minds.

    Lg
     
    Lawrence Glickman, Apr 19, 2008
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  13. No problem. You can find my HP at http://www.fuenfrocken.com if you like.
    Some pictures there, too. ;)
    Cheers,
    markus
     
    Markus Fuenfrocken, Apr 19, 2008
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  14. Lawrence Glickman wrote:
    [...]
    Wow, so much praises for my country - but i think you´re stereotyping a bit
    here ;)
    This is getting quite OT in a photo group, but let me tell you this: I´m
    German, went to the Gymnasium (you remembered correctly) and then to
    University, and i would say the relative amount of lowlifes, dumb asses,
    normal people and really brillant people is similar to every other country
    in the world. Due to our immense social security system we do not have as
    much social problems (homeless, really poor folks) here yet, but it´s
    getting worse here, too.
    And we´re defintely not all Albert Einsteins, and we´re not running around
    wearing leather trousers, eating Schnitzel and quoting Goethe or Schiller
    all day ;) LOL

    Cheers,
    Markus
     
    Markus Fuenfrocken, Apr 19, 2008
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  15. Troy Piggins

    Phred Guest

    The thing that strikes me most about your images is the lack of
    people. They could have been taken here in Oz! It never occurred to
    me that no one lived in Dubai. :)

    By way of explanation... About 30 years ago I spent a few days
    travelling around NQ with an Indian colleague. By day two he was
    regularly commenting "Another Australian town with no people!"

    About 20 years ago I spent several months in southern India. That's
    when I came to realise what he had been on about!

    Cheers, Phred.
     
    Phred, Apr 19, 2008
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  16. Troy Piggins

    Troy Piggins Guest

    Some very nice pics there :)
     
    Troy Piggins, Apr 19, 2008
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  17. Troy Piggins

    Troy Piggins Guest

    Dubai was a bizarre experience. Shopping malls, hotels, and
    construction sites but I don't know what's in all the buildings.
    The malls are empty until lunchtime. The hotels don't come alive
    til nighttime.
     
    Troy Piggins, Apr 19, 2008
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  18. Troy Piggins

    Zot Guest

    Troy Piggins wrote,on my timestamp of 19/04/2008 7:24 AM:
    Exactly! That is the whole point of taking photos:
    keep those memories, of a person, face, moment,
    landscape, whatever, that really touched us in some
    form or other. Sure: if we can, do as much as possible
    to convey the feeling in the photo itself, through the
    composition, lighting, selective focusing, exposure,
    and so on. But if not possible to do all that when
    capturing the moment, then just register it!
    It's then ours to recall. Just my view on this matter,
    anyway.

    There you go,see: for you, they evoke a strong
    memory and relate to what you do! Therefore,
    they are not (puke). And that is precisely
    how it should be, IMHO. The only reason I go
    <yaaawn> when I see that type of photo is simple:
    subject has been done to death, and no one has taken
    the next logical step which is to show folks the
    place is not just the Burj. You have made a start,
    and that is why it is my preferred photo.
    Never been there but I'm quite sure there is a *lot*
    more about Dubhai city than that hotel. We rarely if
    ever see that.


    Pleasure. Thought I'd provide a different
    perspective - if you pardon the pun - than
    the usual blurb about technique or whatever.
     
    Zot, Apr 19, 2008
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  19. Troy Piggins

    Noons Guest

    Troy Piggins wrote,on my timestamp of 19/04/2008 8:26 PM:

    Indeed!
     
    Noons, Apr 19, 2008
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  20. Bitte, Markus.

    Stereotyping is stereotyping, be it favorable or damning.
    There are more than a couple of xenophobes roaming in these groups.
     
    John McWilliams, Apr 19, 2008
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