Photos of Atlanta Race Weekend

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Robert R Kircher, Jr., Mar 23, 2005.

  1. Spent my weekend in Atlanta Georgia at the NASCAR events and took quite a
    few pics. I've posted a good number of them (see links below.) If you're
    into racing you might like them, if not you may find them a bit repetitive.
    Admittedly the pics are of varied quality but there are a good number of
    what I think are great pics through out.

    These pics represent my first attempt at race photos with a (D)SLR camera,
    so techniques like panning were all new to me. It took a little practice
    but I think I got it down pretty good for my first time.

    I've broken the pics down into separate galleries with my favorites in the
    root gallery.
    http://www.pbase.com/rkircher/atlanta_spring_2005

    Here are the rest of the galleries.
    http://www.pbase.com/rkircher/on_the_track
    http://www.pbase.com/rkircher/on_pit_road
    http://www.pbase.com/rkircher/pit_stops
    http://www.pbase.com/rkircher/drivers
    http://www.pbase.com/rkircher/crash
    http://www.pbase.com/rkircher/the_winner
    http://www.pbase.com/rkircher/prerace
    http://www.pbase.com/rkircher/trackside
    http://www.pbase.com/rkircher/tires


    Enjoy and as always comments are more then welcome.

    Thanks, again to all those who gave their advice last week. It was very
    helpful.
     
    Robert R Kircher, Jr., Mar 23, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Since you did a nice job panning, I'd suggest an even longer shutter
    time to enhance the motion (1/100 .. 1/60 .. 1/30). Subject is about speed.
    http://www.pbase.com/rkircher/image/41147201 emphasizes speed quite
    well, a longer shutter speed would do even better if you're smooth.

    Also do the opposite. Take a few frames of blurred cars, static
    background, just to vary your portfolio a bit.

    Some wider angle shots and/or shots of groups of cars battling it out
    would have been nice (A lone leader is fine but the battles for 2nd/3rd
    place may be more exciting in a photo).

    I also liked your red and yellow tire shots, as well as your other
    environment shots for the set.

    For the B-1B, CH-47, and C-130 in a wide metering mode against the sky
    you should have thrown on +1.7 to + 2.0 stops of EXP COMP. Instead you
    got not so sharp silhouettes. Better yet, find an exposure that works,
    set manual and copy the settings over ... consistency in exposure makes
    a set look even better.

    Cheers,
    Alan.
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 23, 2005
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  3. Thanks for the feed back Alan, see my comments inline.


    The one you pointed out was done the second day after I got more comfortable
    with panning. I did deliberately cut the shutter speed back to get more
    blur, however, as you can see the pic is a bit out of focus. Practice,
    practice, practice I guess. I'm going to Richmond VA twice this year so
    I'll get more practice there.
    I'll try that out.
    I have a few of those in the On The Track gallery but I find the cars get
    lost in the picture. Richmond is a smaller track so I was going to try to
    get some closer shots of closer racing. Problem is those races are at night
    so that just adds additional challenges.
    http://www.pbase.com/rkircher/on_the_track
    Thanks, I like those tire shots as well. My father, who was with me,
    thought I was nuts. ;-) My personal favorite is this one,
    http://www.pbase.com/rkircher/image/41145959. The original full size image
    is very crisp and the color is great. It could have used a bit more DoF but
    I like it just the same.
    Here is another thing I want to learn. I have not played much with EXP COMP
    while shooting. I understand the concept but I'm not too sure where and
    when to apply it. I have other pics of planes and they all do look the
    same; silhouetted in the sky. I've played with the RAW images in Capture
    One but haven't really been able to do much. I guess I'm going to have to
    spend a day or two at the airport and just try different things with the
    camera. I will go back to the RAW images and see if I can find a more
    consistent set of adjustments and apply them to all the air pics.


    Thanks again,
     
    Robert R Kircher, Jr., Mar 23, 2005
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    Jim Townsend Guest

    You should have got him in mid backflip :)

    Great shots !
     
    Jim Townsend, Mar 23, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    A basic understanding of the great weakness of camera exposure meters is
    required: The meter thinks everything is 18% grey. So shooting a light
    subject results in underexpsoure; shooting a dark subject results in
    over exposure. The metering mode screws this up further when in wide
    (matrix) views against simple subjects like aircraft in the sky (works
    fine for the auto shots as there's a good mix of scene tones.

    Put your camera in spot meter mode. Meter things against worn asphalt
    (pretty close to 18% grey). You'll get the idea... the only 'good'
    exposure for a given light is that of the 18% grey. Test various
    subjects in the same light against 18% grey.

    That's the basic 120 second course.

    Once you get this in your system you'll find yourself figuring the light
    out for a given scene, setting it manual and shooting for consistency in
    exposure. Most cameras now have a means for keeping the exposure while
    trading f/stops for shutter speed for composition reasons.

    Cheers,
    Alan.
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 23, 2005
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  6. If you look carefully, I did. Unfortunately, (and I have no idea why) I
    pulled back on the zoom so the shot isn't as tight as I'd like.
    http://www.pbase.com/rkircher/image/41148300
     
    Robert R Kircher, Jr., Mar 23, 2005
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    Ed Ruf Guest

    If you like road racing at all, I highly recommend trying to get to the
    Rolex VIR 400 Oct 9th. VIR is an awesome track with great photo ops.
     
    Ed Ruf, Mar 23, 2005
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  8. Road Atlanta is also a fun venue there.

    I have to ask though, where are the pictures of the Georgia Peaches?

    ;-D

    Mike
     
    Mike Murphree, Mar 23, 2005
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  9. Minor point: 300D doesn't have it.
     
    Dave R knows who, Mar 23, 2005
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    RichA Guest

    Good head shots. I didn't know there were female drivers in NASCAR.
    -Rich
     
    RichA, Mar 23, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    I thought you had a camera? ;-)

    Same advice as before, just use the weighted metering. Close enough if
    you're closer to what you're metering.
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 23, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Paul Tracy doesn't drive NASCAR.
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 23, 2005
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  13. Actually Paul and Richard Childress Racing have been doing the dance for
    some time now. There are always heavy rumors that Paul will make the jump
    to NASCAR in a RCR car.
     
    Robert R Kircher, Jr., Mar 24, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Real men drive F-1.



    (Runs... I really don't care about auto racing. Although I did take up
    a corporate hosted ride on the Texas Speedway (regular auto no more
    thatn 110 mph) and I still regret not taking the ride in an actual stock
    car. [at night, in a pack of about 6 or 8 other cars ... looked like a
    blast]).
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 24, 2005
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  15. Its not a question of real men or which is better. IMHO They are different.
    F1 results can often be determined prior to the race based on more static
    strategies of things like fuel loads, pit strategies, etc. This is not a
    bad thing. It's like playing a masters game of chess. On the other hand,
    oval racing tends to be a more fluid form of racing where strategies have to
    remain very flexible through out a race. Thinking, reacting and adapting to
    an ever changing set of events and environment often affect the results over
    some predefined race strategy.

    In any event, I love all forms of motor racing and would love opportunities
    to photograph different forms. But alas I don't see myself getting out to
    Indy or over seas to photograph an F1 race. However, I will get a chance to
    do a IRL race this year. Open wheel, but another oval race.

    And BTW: if the opportunity ever presents itself for me to drive any race
    car, I'd take it in a heart beat. ;-)
     
    Robert R Kircher, Jr., Mar 24, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Don't take me too seriously. I *REALLY* don't care about auto racing, I
    couldn't debate the merits of one over the merits of the other.

    Paul Tracy could almost never win when Villeneuve (jr) was in the same
    league (whatever its called). When Villeneuve left for F-1 then
    suddenly Tracy's star could finally rise on occasion. ;-)
    One thing that strikes me as silly is the qualifying round gets the top
    car and racer to the pole position. AFAIC the more races you win, the
    more you should have to start deeper in the pack and prove you are a
    winner. Not have a tam mate spoiling attempts to catch and pass you (as
    is sometimes the case in F1).

    Cheers,
    Alan.
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 24, 2005
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    John Francis Guest

    [and then proceeds to do exactly that :)]


    I won't address the points raised here (even though I could drag
    it back vaguely on-topic; I use my DSLR to shoot mostly motorsports).

    If anybody cares, I'd be happy to discuss it in an appropriate forum.
     
    John Francis, Mar 24, 2005
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  18. LOL, boy now you've really opened a Pandora's box. Since this is now way
    off topic I'll keep it brief. With F1 it seems like it is the top
    qualifiers race to lose and it can be a bit boring at time. However, as
    with this past weekends NASCAR Cup race, the Pole sitter,
    http://www.pbase.com/rkircher/image/41146822, completely dominating
    qualifying, but very early on in the race it was obvious that the car was
    set up for two great fast laps but sucked on long runs. He finished 14th.
     
    Robert R Kircher, Jr., Mar 24, 2005
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  19. I would suggest rec.autos.sport.nascar or rec.autos.sport.f1

    nascar would be my first choice. ;-)
     
    Robert R Kircher, Jr., Mar 24, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Oh dear! I was just taking a couple happy potshots.

    How kind!

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 24, 2005
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