Photoshop CS3 vs Adobe Lightroom

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by Skinner1, Mar 2, 2007.

  1. Skinner1

    Skinner1 Guest

    As I post this question I am downloading the CS3 beta version to check
    it out. I have the CS version and could easily be cooerced into
    upgrading providing the advancements are strong enough. Being able to
    edit jpegs as though they are RAW is just about enough to get me to
    switch.

    However as I am glancing around in the Adobe website I see this item
    called Lightroom being marketed at photographers. When I glance over
    the features I see most of it seems to mimic Photoshop features.

    My question is:

    If I already have and use Photoshop in either version, what would the
    benifit in having Lightroom be, if any??
     
    Skinner1, Mar 2, 2007
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  2. 1. Getting a pretty good catalogue program
    2. Getting a much better version of CameraRAW
    3. Getting RAW support for newer cameras your PS version does not
    support at all.
    4. Getting the ability to edit JPEGs (and TIFFs) non-destructively
     
    Johan W. Elzenga, Mar 2, 2007
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  3. For completeness, since the question was about either version:
    1, 2, 3, 4 apply when comparing with PS CS.
    1 applies when comparing with PS CS3. (Arguably 2 applies a bit,
    because it is easier in some cases).
     
    Barry Pearson, Mar 2, 2007
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  4. Skinner1

    KatWoman Guest


    so if we do not need album, organizer, file sorter, we won't need LightRoom
    if we have CS3??
    Love the idea of being able to process jpegs
    does this mean you load JPG images from camera direct to CS3 and you can
    adjust them before saving??
    in batches?? we can abandon the Canon or Windows uploader?
    I thought Bridge was supposed to be a sorter/file organizer?
    I like everyting in one program much as possible
    and would prefer to spend my $ on InDesign or Illy as a companion to PS over
    LightRoom.

    Is Lightroom supposed to be like Elements? a PS lite for photographers?
    less art capable and more photo friendly?

    If both programs use RAW why are they not the same in PS CS3 and LR??
    seems kind of cheap for Adobe not to use the best RAW in CS3 considering the
    expensiveness.
    And so many redundant features?
     
    KatWoman, Mar 2, 2007
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  5. Probably not. And if you don't need to edit you don't need Photoshop
    either.
    You can always do that. The idea with non-destructive editting is that
    you don't save the file; the edits are saved separately.
    It is, but different from Lightroon. Bridge is more a file browser,
    Loightroom is more a catalog program.
    That's saying you prefer apples over oranges. If you need InDesign
    and/or Illustrator, you need them. You can't use Lightroom instead.
    No, Lightroom is not a kind of a PS Lite and Photoshop Elements is
    certainly no match to Lightroom.
    The RAW converters are very much the same, and because Photoshop CS3 is
    still in beta, nobody can say that they won't be completely the same
    when Photoshop CS3 comes out.
     
    Johan W. Elzenga, Mar 2, 2007
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  6. Skinner1

    Skinner1 Guest

    I have been using PS CS exclusivly since I got my Rebel. I couldn't
    even FIND my Canon software on my computer. The Lightroom cataloging
    system bears more investigation though. I just bought my SECOND 500
    gig external!
     
    Skinner1, Mar 3, 2007
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  7. On Mar 2, 5:42 pm, "KatWoman" <>
    wrote:
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    [snip]

    There have beens hints in an Adobe forum about extra features in the
    ACR 4.x that will ship with the released CS3. (I believe the
    differences between the raw conversion features in Lightroom and ACR
    4.x will be to do with user interface convenience, workflow support,
    etc, rather than specific editing capability. It appears that Adobe
    intend to synchronise the metadata held by these products, and perhaps
    provide equivalent controls for that metadata).

    Johan-Wilde: "I saw "Spot Removal" in the "Synchronize". Is that
    something in ACR4 I cant find, or an feature that should be
    implemented? Would be a great feature inside ACR!"

    Tom Hogarty: "Nice catch on the "Spot Removal" item in the Synchronize
    menu. It's a feature that has yet to be implemented but will be
    available for the full Adobe Camera Raw 4.0 release."

    http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=72&catid=626&threadid=1224592
     
    Barry Pearson, Mar 3, 2007
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  8. Skinner1

    KatWoman Guest

    so many things to think about
    brave new world
    the new features sound great
     
    KatWoman, Mar 3, 2007
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  9. Skinner1

    Dave Guest

    , "KatWoman"
    So does that silver Merc 500 Sport
    and in fact, it takes you just as far
    as a Volkswagen, or a Japanese.
    Maybe faster, but the volksie also
    reach the destination - cheaper.

    Dave
     
    Dave, Mar 3, 2007
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  10. Sometimes the extra speed makes something viable.

    I recently had a time-critical task involving between 100 & 200 poorly-
    cropped JPEGs. It would have taken too much time to do them all in
    Photoshop itself.

    But, (in fact, too late for this occasion), my test showed that I
    could open them all in ACR 4.0, (which handles JPEGs), and crop them
    all individually within the time limits, then save them as JPEGs,
    without actually using Photoshop itself. So perhaps next time I'll do
    that.
     
    Barry Pearson, Mar 5, 2007
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