Photoshop vs. Photoshop Elements

Discussion in 'Photoshop Tutorials' started by aka 717, Oct 17, 2005.

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    aka 717 Guest

    I bought the package with Elements 4 and Premiere Elements
    for $150. I assume there is a moneyback for a month like usual.
    I thought the Elements would work will with Photoshop 6 but
    I can't even open a pic in Elements to a shell (Photoshop) to use
    it, especially with actions, etc...

    I'm not seeing anything special about Premiere Elements, so maybe
    I'd have been better off to upgrade to Photoshop CS ... ?
     
    aka 717, Oct 17, 2005
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    Jim Guest

    Elements is a standalone image editing program. That is, it replaces
    Photoshop 6. So, if you have either one, you don't need the other.
    Jim
     
    Jim, Oct 17, 2005
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  3. Yes to the first but no to the second, I'd say. PS6 has some features not
    included in PE, the most important of which is the ability to record
    actions. I've kept mine on my PC for that very purpose.
     
    Roger Whitehead, Oct 17, 2005
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    Jim Guest

    Yes, I should have said: It replaces, for the most part, Photoshop 6.
    Jim
     
    Jim, Oct 17, 2005
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  5. Inarguable. :cool:
     
    Roger Whitehead, Oct 17, 2005
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    Mike Russell Guest

    For the most part. It does not support Lab, CMYK, or curves, so I would
    keep PS6 around if that is an option.
     
    Mike Russell, Oct 17, 2005
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  7. Elements will support curves, LAB and CMYK with Richard Lynch's
    PowerTools, but admittedly, the CMYK separation is a bit convoluted.
    For my part what I miss is not being able to fully edit 16 bit.
    Otherwise, there is not much the CS can do that Elements can't.
    (Still, I constantly struggle with the urge to go all out and get CS2,
    even though I know i don't really really need it.) Ken
     
    Ken Palmateer, Oct 18, 2005
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    Mike Russell Guest

    Curvemeister supports curves in Elements versions 1 through 4, in 8 and 16
    bit mode.
     
    Mike Russell, Oct 18, 2005
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    Walterius Guest

    CurveMeister is not free. Mike Russell lurks in PS groups so he can plug his
    software.
     
    Walterius, Oct 18, 2005
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    DD Guest

    So what! Mike Russel is of more value to this groups than you
    top posters that do not even know which side of a letter to respond
    to.

    Dave
     
    DD, Oct 18, 2005
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    Mike Russell Guest

    LOL! Remember, only 67 days to Christmas, and Curvemeister makes a great
    gift for that special someone!
     
    Mike Russell, Oct 19, 2005
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  12. I'd rather people put their new material at the top than repeat all the
    previous message(s) before adding his or her words.

    In the days when people generally trimmed the quoted material to a couple
    of lines or so, top-posting was perhaps a faux pas. These days, when most
    users are too lazy, ignorant or arrogant to bother editing the quotes, top
    posting makes good sense. One doesn't then have to scroll through yards of
    irrelevant matter to get to the new content.

    Roger
     
    Roger Whitehead, Oct 19, 2005
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    Tom Thomas Guest

    Ah, there's some great logic. Because "lazy, ignorant or aggogant"
    posters don't follow reasonalbe Usenet etiquette it's OK for those who
    know better to do it also. I guess it would never occur to some
    people that doing things properly sets an example for the less
    experienced to follow.
     
    Tom Thomas, Oct 19, 2005
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  14. Nice theory but it hasn't worked. Just look around you.

    Top-posting acknowledges the reality of today's newsgroups, not some
    imagined ideal.
     
    Roger Whitehead, Oct 19, 2005
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    Tom Thomas Guest

    I guess that's one perspective. Personally, I think it has more to do
    with the number of people using Outlook Express as a news client. It
    basically encourages top posting since it behaves as most email
    clients do ... placing the new text above the original message.

    Wrong tool, wrong result.
     
    Tom Thomas, Oct 19, 2005
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  16. I agree. The difficulty arises in large measure because M$ doesn't go out
    of its way to tell people how to use it in a civilised manner. They thus
    remain in a state of ignorance.

    It can easily be set up not to repeat everything.
     
    Roger Whitehead, Oct 19, 2005
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    DD Guest


    ....for incase it is a Toyota Corolla, I want to be in line, Mike.
    Must be beige remember...

    Dave
     
    DD, Oct 19, 2005
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    aka 717 Guest

    I've played with this some since my last post.
    I love the organizer. It's worth the $75. And
    Premiere Elements opens VOB files and saves
    them as mpg or avi which is something that my
    $500 Media Studio Pro won't. Maybe I should
    have bought the CS upgrade and still might
    later, but I'm pretty darn happy with Elements 4.

    Sorry about the top post.
     
    aka 717, Oct 30, 2005
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    aka 717 Guest

    As far as actions go, does CS or CS2 have a better interfact
    for the actions menu? I like button mode but getting the
    menu to have the buttons in the right place with a good color
    code is kind of a pain and there should be a lot more shortcut
    keys, don't you think? They could use control-alphabet if they
    chose to, no?
     
    aka 717, Oct 30, 2005
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    aka 717 Guest

    How much does it cost? I'll gove you $10 right now
    for the special ng price. : -) I could even go a little
    higher.
     
    aka 717, Oct 30, 2005
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