Photoshopped a guy out of wheelchair?

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by RichA, Mar 13, 2014.

  1. RichA

    Savageduck Guest

    Perhaps you should take another look at exactly what happened at Yalta,
    in the closing months of the War, and the events in The Balkans and
    Greece in the immediate post war period.

    There was nothing the Western Allies were capable of doing regarding
    Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria. With Tito
    firmly in control in Yugoslavia there was little to be done in the
    Balkans.

    Then there was Greece and the Greek Civil War 1946-49, which could well
    be claimed to be the first combat phase of the Cold War. That was a
    close thing for the West, and there are still polarizing issues in
    Greece to this day.
    < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Civil_War >

    One of the major issues at Yalta was a dying FDR.
     
    Savageduck, Mar 23, 2014
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  2. RichA

    PeterN Guest

    Yes, but the Soviets did pull out of Greece about the time that British
    tanks engaged.
    The fact is that the US had no stomach to continue the war in Europe.
    Patton caused much consternation when he wanted to continue moving East.
    We now know that when the Berlin wall went up, had we attempted force,
    it owuld have quickly come down.
    The following is my opinion, based upon known facts;
    Had we taken a frm stand, there USSR would have disintegrated much sooner.
    Had Hitler not treated the Ukrainians and Belorussians might very well
    have fought on his side.
    We do not learn from history. I am thinking the Crimea.
    Of course I can't prove it, but at one point I was seriously considering
    writing a novel based around the above thoughts.
     
    PeterN, Mar 24, 2014
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  3. RichA

    Savageduck Guest

    Remember, construction of the Berlin Wall started in 1961 not 1945, and
    had nothing to do with the YAlta Agreement, Stalin, Churchill, or FDR.
    The Berlin blockade and the Airlift only started in 1948.
    So, the Berlin Airlift in 1948 wasn't a demonstration that the West
    wasn't going to tolerate Soviet control of the US, British and French
    sectors?

    Austria was a close thing and was also divided into occupation Zones
    with Vienna totally in the Soviet Zone as was Berlin. It was only after
    1955 that a truly independent Austria rose from the ashes.

    We sure stabbed the Poles, Czechs, and Hungarians in the back with all
    the support we gave them through the 50's, and 60's.
    Not treated them how?
    Many did anyway.
    Yup! Certainly Putin is following the same method that Hitler did in
    1938 and 1939 with Anschluss in Austria, the Sudetenland incursion, and
    the invasion of Poland. After Chamberlain, Daladier, and Mussolini were
    conned into the Munich Agreement (drafted by Mussolini) Hitler believed
    he was home free.
    "Peace in our time" indeed.
    So, who are the appeasers this time?
    Write away, and don't forget to pen a matching screen play.
     
    Savageduck, Mar 24, 2014
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  4. RichA

    PeterN Guest

    And the blockade was lifted after we started the airlift.
    The wall was built because of the outflow from the Eastern controlled
    sectors. Had we put more troops on the ground, the wall would have come
    down.
    Of course it was. We never followed up. Was there a back door agreement
    not to? I don't know.

    I forgot about the 1956 Soviet invasion of Hungary. Was our "aid" a
    deterrent, of an encouragement.



    Accidentally left off "with obscene brutality,"
    That's exactly what's bothering me.
     
    PeterN, Mar 24, 2014
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  5. RichA

    Mort Guest

    He was not "an addled clown". He was a deathly ill man, suffering from
    extremely high blood pressure in an era that lacked good treatment.
    Don't blame him, but rather his handlers, who even propped him up in an
    open car for photo ops in 1944 when he already had brain damage from a
    series of strokes.

    Mort Linder
     
    Mort, Mar 30, 2014
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  6. RichA

    Mort Guest

    Italy almost succumbed as well. I was caught in a deadly
    Communist-Fascist riot in Rome in 1952, when I literally feared for my
    life, as I watched many dead people around me. Many Italian cities
    became Communist then, especially Bologna, and it was touch and go for a
    while. A similar situation prevailed in Greece.

    Mort Linder
     
    Mort, Mar 30, 2014
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  7. RichA

    Savageduck Guest

    The situation in Greece was far worse than that in Italy. Even today
    the Italians can't quite get a stabile government together for more
    than a year or two. The communists in postwar France were also a rather
    nasty, blood thirsty bunch, only the Gaullists were able to stop that
    slide.
    The Greek Civil War was as bitter and bad as the War in French
    Indo-China. Stalin claimed that The Soviet Union played no part in the
    Greek Civil War, but he used his go-between Tito until Tito had his
    falling out with Moscow, and the West prevailed. Then like the Shah,
    after the US and the Dulles brothers got rid of Mosaddegh, he and Tito
    were described as bastards, but at least they are our bastards.
     
    Savageduck, Mar 30, 2014
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  8. RichA

    Savageduck Guest

    Oops! that was meant to be "stable" not "stabile". They probably
    weren't able to get a stabile government either. ;-)
     
    Savageduck, Mar 30, 2014
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  9. RichA

    PeterN Guest

    Yet Italian communists today are in the process of destroying the
    Italian economy. Likewise, the Greek communists have mutilated the Greek
    economy. The common thread is a sense of entitlement in that they are
    being paid to show up, regardless of whether they produce income for the
    entity they work for.
    There are some who believe it should be illegal to fire a non-productive
    worker, or cut the workforce when the company is having a hard time. I
    speculate that the described attitude is a remnant of compromises with
    the soviet style comunists. .
     
    PeterN, Mar 31, 2014
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