Pictures from the new Sony a DSLR

Discussion in 'Sony' started by RichA, Jun 8, 2006.

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    RichA Guest

    RichA, Jun 8, 2006
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    bmoag Guest

    If I had a collection of Minolta autofocus lenses I would have one of these
    on order already. However having used Sony's prior top end, albeit EVF,
    cameras I would have to hope that Sony has taken on Minolta's experience in
    camera control systems and workflows that would appeal to working
    photographers rather than the type of programming evident in the 828 and DSC
    r1 cameras. I would compare Sony's design and usability features of those
    cameras to the interior contols system design of current BMWs. Everyone
    loves BMWs but then ask them about the center I wheel control, placement of
    controls on the dash and steering wheel and the usual reply is, "you get
    used to it."
     
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    Scott W Guest

    At least Sony finally has a camera that can take a raw file and not
    spend all day doing it.

    The bad performance of the R1 when shooting raw was more then enough to
    rule it out for me, this was a major problem on the F828.

    I did use the F828 for a long time and as far as the controls are
    concerned, well I got use to them. You had to go through menus just to
    change the ISO, but since that camera really was not much good past ISO
    64 you did not change it often.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Jun 8, 2006
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    RichA Guest

    What is good is that Sony (logically) is going after the beginners with
    what looks like
    a terrifically-priced entry camera, and they will likely go for it,
    many never having owned
    an SLR and therefore they aren't plagued by biases that force them to
    go with Canon
    or Nikon. At the same time, they have no biases as regard controls.
    They probably don't
    even expect a DSLR to look like an old SLR. But the intriguing thing
    is that Sony is supposedly going to go after the mid-high end too, and
    if they penetrate that, it will be
    a major accomplishment for a "newcomer" to the field of SLRs.
     
    RichA, Jun 8, 2006
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    ian Guest

    Sony has the fabrication plants and R+D budget plus the brand dominance to
    compete. They could even take a hit on entry level to the point of loss
    leader in order to gain market share. Pretty much how canon relies on the
    rest of its business to subsidise cameras. They still end up costing more
    than the competition but people are prepared to pay extra for canon
    products. The rest are slitting their own throats on prices. This will
    only lessen their brand value.

    Sony went after the hybrid part of the market. Got good reviews. their
    compacts got good reviews. Their stuff is also the pricier quality stuff
    not the 'Slit me own throat' price bracket. This is probably a test the
    water campaign. mid range SLR will be determined on the success of this
    one. High end prosumer will be determined by mid range and so on. They got
    a good name in the camcorder market, then there is the nostalgia of the
    minolta lens owners. Making the existing flash guns compatible would be a
    shrewd move. EVen if they have to make an adapter cos KM have a unique
    flash connection layout on the hot shoe.
     
    ian, Jun 9, 2006
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  6. ian skrev:
    Hope they understand alot of the 7 serie owners are waiting for the 7d
    replacement.
    We who own several Minolta lenses have ofcourse been waiting for Sony to
    get out the plans.
    The a100 seem to have the same hotshoe as Minolta have had since the
    second AF generation. should there be compability issues?

    http://www.dpreview.com/news/0606/sonya100-big.jpg

    http://www.travel-images.com/slr-konica-minolta-7d.jpg

    see, same hotshoe.
     
    Geir Eivind Mork, Jun 9, 2006
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    w.beckley Guest

    On the subject of lenses, anyone know who will be designing the glass
    for the Alpha Series cameras? I'm guessing Minolta, Zeiss, or both. Do
    Sony's contracts with Minolta and Zeiss prohibit one or the other from
    working on lenses of these cameras?

    And Sony's not planning on doing any of the lens design in-house,
    right? I trust them for electronics, but optics are another story.

    Here's to the pipe dream of a series of APS-C specific Zeiss primes.

    Will
     
    w.beckley, Jun 9, 2006
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    RichA Guest

    Optics? Check out some of their video and television camera lenses.
    They should be capable of doing DSLR lenses easily. Whether they want
    to as opposed to contracting it out is another issue.
     
    RichA, Jun 9, 2006
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    Dmac Guest

    There was a PJ release. That's how he "got one" along with other
    selected Journos who are know to be biased towards Sony.

    The interest pic in all these is the ISO 1600 shot. A oddity of
    exposures is that in bright sunlight, there is not a lot of noise in
    most DSLRs at ISO 1600. You get noise as the light falls off but there
    are no low light ISO 1600 examples. I suspect they will just be a
    re-hash of the Minolta.
     
    Dmac, Jun 9, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    Why would you expect that? It is a new sensor so I would expect
    it to perform as expected for that sensor.
     
    Pete D, Jun 10, 2006
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    Bill Guest

    Who told you it was a new sensor...?
     
    Bill, Jun 10, 2006
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    Dmac Guest

    New sensors are in nearly all new cameras. They still have the maker's
    feel to them. If this is a Minolta based camera, with a motor drive in
    the body, it will work and feel like a Minolta SLR. Anyone with an
    original AF Minolta will feel right at home with one.
     
    Dmac, Jun 10, 2006
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    RichA Guest

    Which Minolta 10 meg is it a rehash of?
     
    RichA, Jun 10, 2006
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    Charles Guest

    Charles, Jun 10, 2006
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    Dmac Guest

    You're being pedantic Rich. Sony are past masters at reinventing the
    wheel. All they'll do is add a different sensor to an existing camera
    and re-badge it as a Sony.
     
    Dmac, Jun 10, 2006
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    Ruman Guest

    Actually this new DSLR is really a KM 5D/7D body with D200's sensor in
    it.
    I believe DCResource covered it better than DPReview
    http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/sony/dslr_a100-review/
     
    Ruman, Jun 10, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    You think they can magically make a 10MP sensor from the old 6MP one??
     
    Pete D, Jun 10, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    But the sensor is a Sony one, same as in the D200 and probably same
    as what will be in the 10MP Pentax if is ever happens.
     
    Pete D, Jun 10, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

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    Pete D, Jun 10, 2006
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    Kevin Agard Guest

    Actually a 5D, not a 7D.
     
    Kevin Agard, Jun 10, 2006
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