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    Tony Cooper Guest

    I know Deborah, or at least have talked to her on several occasions.
    She and I are members of the same camera club, and she's given
    presentations to both camera clubs that I belong to.

    The photo of the old dock was taken at Lake Monroe just up the road
    from me. Sanford borders Lake Monroe. Steamboats used to tie up at
    that dock.

    Here's a playful thing that I did of part of that dock:
    http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Photography/Miscellanea/i-xmrr3nr/0/XL/2011-09-06-3-XL.jpg

    Deb's into two areas that I don't follow, though. She does a lot of
    infrared photography and has written a book on that subject.

    http://blog.deborahsandidge.com/p/book.html

    She's also big on something you'd like: what she calls digital art.
    She uses a lot of texture overlays and abstract rendering of photos.
    Too artsy-craftsy for me, though.


    She's good at night photography and has led some of the club's field
    trips on this subject. She's very helpful when she leads a group.

    She, and some of the other members of the camera club, run a lot of
    photography tours where you get to go to some place with good photo
    opportunities and get individualized photography instruction. Her
    photos on that website from Cuba are from one of the trips. Her next
    one is to somewhere in Canada. She announced it at a meeting.
     
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    I met her at NECCC on Sunday, where she was a presenter. She quite
    willing to share information. I had a long discussion with her about
    infrared. Had I not been out practicing long exposures today, I would
    have mentioned that to the Duck. It seems that with a lot of cameras
    today, it is not necessary to do a conversion, just get a filter, which
    I ordered.
     
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    PeterN Guest

    I like it.


    Thanks, I saw that. What surprised me is that now some cameras don't
    need conversion.
    But she does some phenomenal work.
     
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    Savageduck Guest

    I read her page and I noted these words; "Though a bit more expensive,
    the benefits of an infrared converted camera outweigh the cost".

    With that in mind, the $275 cost for converting my D70 isn't too bad,
    considering the D70 isn't worth much more than $100 anymore.
     
    Savageduck, Jul 15, 2013
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  6. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    BTW; since you have been "pinged", how did your PSE class go, and did
    you check my PSE-9 rendition of the bearded old fart?
     
    Savageduck, Jul 15, 2013
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    PeterN Guest

    Porn Star Experience ??
     
    PeterN, Jul 15, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    Your point of view seems to be locked into an Eliot Spitzer lens.
     
    Savageduck, Jul 15, 2013
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  9. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    For a while the highest paid job in politics was working under Elliot
    Spitzer.

    Seriously, what is PSE?
     
    PeterN, Jul 16, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    Photoshop Elements. The current version is PSE-11, Tony and I have
    copies of PSE-9 bundled with some other purchase. I can't quite
    remember what mine came with, my Wacom tablet, or something else.

    This is the B&W conversion of Tony's shot, I did in PSE-9 just using
    what was available, no plug-ins or filters.
    After ACR processing and conversion, I made this rendition using the
    "Hue/Saturation" adjustment layer and multiple passes with the
    "brightness/Contrast" adjustment layer. For each pass I inverted the
    layer mask to "black" and painted in where I wanted the adjustment with
    a white brush, tweaking the adjustment once I had the area I wanted
    fixed painted.
    I used nothing else in PSE other than an 8x10 crop.

    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/2013-07-06-11-PSEw.jpg >
     
    Savageduck, Jul 16, 2013
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    PeterN Guest

    My bad. I thought you were responding to me. Yes Tony Cooper was giving
    a PSE presentation.

    As to the conversion, parts of the beard look burned out.
     
    PeterN, Jul 16, 2013
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    The class was successful, I guess. The people stayed, the people took
    notes, the people made nice comments. Dunno what they retained.

    I was a bit surprised about the misconceptions some had. A couple
    weren't interested in the beginning because "Elements doesn't have
    layers". Some thought Elements doesn't have Curves. (It does, but
    not quite the same as the full Photoshop) Some who have been using
    Elements didn't know about a lot of things.

    I did see your Elements version of the old man. I thought I commented
    on it.
     
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    No, I have PSE-9, but it wasn't a bundle buy. I bought it straight up
    as a gift for my daughter. Adobe allows two computers to use it, so
    it's on her computer and on my computer. I installed it on mine in
    order to be able to teach her the program and provide screen shots.
    My Wacom came with very abbreviated version of Nik's package. It was
    almost worthless, so I uninstalled it long before I bought the full
    Nik package.

    I have Elements 5.0, but I don't remember if that was a bundle or
    what. It's on the computer, but I haven't opened it in several years.
    That's a very good conversion, but it is the result of a far more
    complex process than I used for the class.
     
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    Savageduck Guest

    Just letting them know there are layers, adjustment layers, and layer
    masks in Elements would have (should have) been well worth their time.
     
    Savageduck, Jul 16, 2013
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    Some people brought in images on thumbdrives and wanted to see how I
    processed them in Elements. One person had a photograph of a
    sunflower with several of the petals completely blown out, but the
    rest looked good. He wanted me to bring back the color in the petals,
    but I told him there was no color there...the areas were just devoid
    of any color.

    He said he thought that "Photoshop" could bring back anything, and was
    quite disappointed. I told I could fake it, and selected some good
    petals from the other part, pasted them in, rotated and placed them,
    put the selection behind the image, did a layer mask cut-out to show
    them, and presented him with a perfect sunflower.

    At tonight's regular meeting, we had a presentation by a nature
    photographer who does a lot bird photos. He was talking about
    metering and showed an image of a white bird that was blown out and
    said the image couldn't be improved.

    My sunflower person piped up "Tony could!".

    The nature photographer was Jack Rogers:
    http://www.pbase.com/paleojack who does some nice work. While he does
    tack-sharp photography for the most part, the one of his I liked is:
    http://www.pbase.com/paleojack/image/72729662
     
    Tony Cooper, Jul 16, 2013
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    PeterN Guest

    You might like some of Denise Ipplito's work;

    <http://deniseippolito.com/blurs/>
     
    PeterN, Jul 16, 2013
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    A graphic designer once told me that one of his clients had a photo
    of a car, and asked him to erase the door areas in Photoshop, in
    order to reveal the interior upholstery of the car.
     
    pensive hamster, Jul 16, 2013
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    That's why they invented layers and layer masks.
     
    Tony Cooper, Jul 16, 2013
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  19. As long as you remember to tick 'reveal hidden layers'
     
    pensive hamster, Jul 16, 2013
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