Pinnacle 10 plus: STILL A DISASTER

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by nappY Si, Mar 18, 2006.

  1. nappY Si

    nappY Si Guest

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    FROM: 1071PETE
    DATE: Mar. 11, 2006 4:36 pm
    I have been with Studio from the early days, and when it works,
    it is really good. But it has been a real struggle, to be fair I
    should have ditched a long time ago. 10 Plus was and still is a
    disaster, even with the 10.5 patch. I know my way round a PC,
    but had little free time so had my dedicated system set up with
    10 by a professional, the machine updated where needed, in fact
    more than twice the recomended spec, all tuned by a specialist
    company, Pinnacles agent, mind you. I ought to have taken the
    hint, as they were not too happy working with Studio, but I
    guess they did not want to turn away business.

    I have gone back to version 9, it is far more stable.

    Pinnacles/Avid have a real nerve in offering for sale to a
    public who in the main are probably not PC saavy, a piece of
    merchandise that clearly does not do what it says it will do. To
    me, it is totally unacceptable, dishonest, immoral, and if
    tested in a law court, probably illegal.
     
    nappY Si, Mar 18, 2006
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    doc Guest

    studio 9 far more stable? that's a long shot. we couldn't get it to
    install on one machine, crashed often on two others, and the one would run
    for a maxium of 8 minutes. studio 8 was unstable but at least one could
    learn what made it crash and keep it running.

    drd
     
    doc, Mar 18, 2006
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    spikeandpoo Guest

     
    spikeandpoo, Mar 19, 2006
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  4. nappY Si

    spikeandpoo Guest

    why dont you all scrap pinnacle software and try out premiere elements
    1.5 or 2, honestly the transfer process will be short and elements is a
    fantastic bit of software, try the free download from adobe.
     
    spikeandpoo, Mar 19, 2006
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    TonyP Guest

    Some people do not have a life and seem to be on a mission that is
    failing miserably. While it has been acknowledged that Studio 10 release
    was a disaster, and should not have been released, I would think that he
    would have grown up and moved on in his life, if he had one.

    Elements seems to be an excellent choice for the budget videographer.
     
    TonyP, Mar 19, 2006
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    nappy Guest

    That would include you Tony.. since you can't ever let one of the posts go
    unanswered.

    Me.. I'm just waiting for a 3D render.. killing time..
    I thought you used Pinaapple stuff Tony? Oh No! You couldn't be offering
    advice on something you've never used could you Tony?
     
    nappy, Mar 19, 2006
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    Doc Guest

    Can you respond in the thread I started on this topic and elaborate on the
    machines involved?

    The other Doc
     
    Doc, Mar 20, 2006
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  8. nappY Si

    doc Guest

    as for me i did scrap 9 and took 10 back before i ever opened the box after
    reading the forums about it. we use 8 with the latest of updates and works
    fine other than crashes that are predictable upon making cetain keystrokes
    (learning curve . . like, moving a clip that has a transition on either end
    before deleting the transition first) otherwise, we went LE and it works
    great! we do our tv shows on LE6.1 or xpress pro depending on what we want
    to do and if we want a "ONE STOP" solution or multiple package solution and
    of course depending on output requirements.

    as far as premier elements, didn't like it either. love avid xpress pro.
    who needs the other.

    for simple, easy to use consumer grade product, ulead. works great!

    drd
     
    doc, Mar 20, 2006
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  9. nappY Si

    TonyP Guest

    Of course not. With you propagating nonsense, someone has to add balance
    to it, and it is me. Again, you have no experience with current Pinnacle
    products.
    Sure you are.....
    Err... did you ever bother to read before replying? I'll answer that for
    you... "no". Re-read my reply, this time with reading comprehension, and
    then get back to me.
     
    TonyP, Mar 20, 2006
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  10. nappY Si

    nappy Guest

    Don't be jealous Tony.. I have been doing 3D for movies & TV since 96. Only
    have a small render farm so some renders take a day .. And they take up
    every computer I have.. not much to do but send email and ... of course..
    tease you. !


    So you're an Elements user then. I thought you were a Pinnacle user.

    You can't ever let one of the posts go unanswered. That speaks volumes
    about you, Tony.. Volumes ! .. Volumes 1, 2, & 3

    :))


    nappy.. not a pinnaple user. that's true.
     
    nappy, Mar 20, 2006
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    doc Guest

    as for me, i am a pinnacle user and it works great for me, just not studio 9
    or 10. both were disasters on all 3 of our media machines. 8 with it's
    latest version fixes is fabulous. prompted me to at least continue using
    pinnacle products and now that they're avid, i think the team will go
    horizons beyond the rest (avid already is)

    drd
     
    doc, Mar 21, 2006
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    Tom Guest

    I guess I'll have to be the lone voice. I have had 8, 9, 9 plus, and
    now 10.5. I'm keeping mine. Use it every day.
     
    Tom, Mar 21, 2006
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    doc Guest

    i wished i could get 9 to work. we like 8 for quick and easy conversions
    but can't get it to. we actually have two copies and licenses for it, one
    is 9+ with capture/tv card the other is just a 9 disc and license and
    couldn't get neither to work. 8 works fine other than the little
    idiocyncricies that we mentioned above but have managed to learn what causes
    them and thus avoid making those errors but otherwise a bummer :(

    if you have suggestions on how to get them installed and working we're open
    for suggestions. pinnacle couldn't help even through they tried desperately
    over a 3 month period and even sent us special software programs to install
    to help them try and figure it out but nonetheless unsuccessful and ended up
    giving us our money back.

    drd
     
    doc, Mar 21, 2006
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    nappy Guest

    I rest my case.
     
    nappy, Mar 21, 2006
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  15. "doc" wrote ...
    I started out with Ver 8 and was very happy with it. Very easy to use and
    reasonably powerful .. but I've moved on and don't regret it one bit.
    Currently using Sony Vegas Movie Studio +DVD Platinum and it is a MUCH
    better program. Just my $0.02
     
    Richard Amirault, Mar 21, 2006
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    TonyP Guest

    Wow.. try reading it again. Nowhere does it say that I am an Elements
    user. And yes, I am a Avid/Pinnacle user along with several other video
    programs.
    Thanks. And you keep adding to it!
    I would hope not. I haven't seen anyone edit video with a pineapple.
     
    TonyP, Mar 22, 2006
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    TonyP Guest

    Very selective aren't you.
     
    TonyP, Mar 22, 2006
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  18. nappY Si

    nappy Guest

    You bit the hook again Tony! :))
     
    nappy, Mar 22, 2006
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    nappy Guest

    So why would you comment on a program you don't use?

    "Elements seems to be an excellent choice for the budget videographer."

    Isn't that what you compain about ?

    volumes Tony! Volumes...
     
    nappy, Mar 22, 2006
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    doc Guest

    oh we moved on too, as i said early in this thread, to Avid Xpress Pro and
    works great, it's just that 9 would have been great for some quick fun and
    dirty things. but there ya have it, was so dirty, it didn't work :eek:(

    drd
     
    doc, Mar 22, 2006
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