Pinnacle Studio capture process for Sony Handycam DCR HC36

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by n33470, Dec 22, 2006.

  1. n33470

    n33470 Guest

    Newbie alert! This is my first attempt at working with a digital
    camcorder and video editing, so I'm sure this is just a basic problem.

    I have a new camcorder, a Sony Handycam DCR HC36.
    I have a new computer (2.8Ghz Pentium D, 1Mb RAM, Windows XP Media
    Center) that includes an IEEE1394 adapter with 2 6-pin ports on it.

    I'm trying to use Pinnacle's Studio 9 SE (with the 9.4.x patch
    installed) to capture from the camcorder to the PC so that I can do
    editing. How do you do get the capture process working?

    I have connected the camcorder to the computers IEEE port using a 6 to
    4 pin firewire cable. I turn the camcorder on, and navigate to the
    "Play/Edit" screen of the camcorder. I start up Pinnacle Studio and
    go the Capture screen. It appears like it's ready to do a DV
    capture. I click the Start Capture button, and get a message window
    that says something like....."Attempting to capture from IEEE1394
    device, make sure the camcorder is in VTR/VCR/Play mode" (that message
    is not verbatim....this is from remembering what it said last night).
    What do you have to do on the camcorder side to start the capture, or
    prepare it for the computer to control the capture process.

    I'm sure this is a very simple problem. I think I'm missing something
    basic. Is there any software, or drivers, that need to be installed on
    the computer to allow a firewire port to work? If I were using USB,
    there would need to be drivers installed on the PC, is the something
    similiar for firewire that needs to be done on the PC? Is there some
    concept of putting the camcorder in a "capture-mode" so that it can
    stream the video to the PC?

    Thanks for any help!

    --steve
     
    n33470, Dec 22, 2006
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  2. n33470

    Funprice Guest

    Look in the help section of Pinnacle's Studio for an explanation on
    how to capture from a DV device if you please.

    Normally the camcorder has to be put in the vcr mode, stopped.

    Check your pc's device manager if the camcorder is detected and
    working fine after connecting.

    Normally no drivers have to be installed for firewire, but check your
    pc's device manager if that device is working properly, install a
    diver if necessary, see the software that came with your pc.

    You maybe can use USB, as it now has capability's such as firewire,
    but check your DV cam's documentation if it supports this enhanced usb
    function. Stick to firewire if you're not sure, it is more advanced.

    Some camcorder's can be used as 'a kind of webcam', therefore they
    need to have the 'streaming usb' capability: check your camcorder's
    documentation or just try it out.

    Good luck!
     
    Funprice, Dec 22, 2006
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  3. "Funprice" wrote ...
    Unlikely.
    Nobody has yet identified any equipment that uses USB
    to transfer DV.
     
    Richard Crowley, Dec 22, 2006
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  4. n33470

    Funprice Guest

    Funprice, Dec 22, 2006
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  5. Looks like you missed a step... You can't just push the "capture" button,
    because there is nothing to capture until you hit the "play" button first.
    You see the capture needs to have footage... the footage must be playing
    back to be captured. First, let's make sure you begin correctly. This is the
    normal set of steps for capture. Before opening up your Pinnacle program
    turn on the camcorder and hook it to the 1394 cable. You should hear some
    sound from Windows signaling the device is present. Now, start up Pinnacle
    and go to the capture module. Hit play on the VCR like button seen there.
    Once the video is seen in the little capture window hit the capture button.
    Hit the proper key for the capture to be stopped and test the playback of
    your video file. If all is well do it a whole bunch more!! If you need any
    further help post again.

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    Larry Johnson
    Digital Video Solutions

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    Digital Video Solutions, Dec 23, 2006
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  6. "Funprice" < wrote ...
    I'm quite certain that the OP was writing from the Real
    World and not from Press-Release Land. Considering
    the date on that press release and the fact that nobody
    has yet come through here with that functionality, I'd
    have to assume that it was a nice theory that never made
    it in the marketplace.
     
    Richard Crowley, Dec 23, 2006
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  7. n33470

    Funprice Guest

    Creative Labs’ webcams are nice to begin with, compact and with
    above-average image quality. The hardware is USB 2.0, supports 640×480
    30fps operation, and manual focusing — that’s the exact formula you
    want for installations and motion control. (Okay, yes, I realize most
    of the PC webcam market isn’t using their webcams to control
    interactive music patches by waving their arms in front of a custom
    motion analysis patch, but … you love weirdness, Webizens, don’t you?)

    The good news is, thanks to USB Video Class support, you’re assured
    the Optia will work without drivers on Windows XP SP2 and later, and
    should also work on Linux and even Mac OS X.
     
    Funprice, Dec 23, 2006
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  8. "Funprice" wrote ...
    Presumably if the OP were asking about a webcam (Creative
    Labs or otherwise) he would have mentioned it. Wandering
    into theoretical side-roads confuses people who come here
    looking for specific help for their issues.
     
    Richard Crowley, Dec 23, 2006
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  9. "n33470" wrote ...
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    Unfortunatly .. you just may have picked the wrong software. Pinnacle's
    Studio series is *notorious* for being buggy. For some folks it works. For
    other is doesn't at all, and for others still it works but with problems.
    The first goup seems to be in the minority. Do a Google search for "pinnacle
    problem" and see.

    You may not be doing anything wrong. I used to use Studio 8 and it worked
    for me but I went to Sony Screenblast Movie Studio and then upgraded to
    Vegas Movie Studio Platinum and never regretted it for a second.
     
    Richard Amirault, Dec 23, 2006
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  10. n33470

    Scubajam Guest

    Steve

    Connect firewire and power up camcorder in VCR mode before starting
    software. You should get a message noting new hardware. This at least
    verifies Firewire is OK. Some firewire cables have been bad. I think
    it was CompUSA that sold some that were improperly wired and actually
    fried some people's hardware.

    It sounds like you've done everything right. Should work. Just have
    to hit the capture or record button on the capture software. Make sure
    the tape is at the beginning.

    I've never used Pinnacle, have heard it has some bugs and some cameras
    it just does not recognize, but Sony should be a standard. There's no
    menu setting on camcorder, just put in VCR mode. The camera real time
    image goes out and you see recorded image and the VCR controls. That's
    how you playback your tape and watch on the camera. If the connection
    is good, you should also be able to completely control the camera via
    Firewire from your capture software. Same VCR buttons for record
    (which records to hard drive), fast forward, etc. You select the
    folder on drive to record into. Usually you don't have to start Play
    on camcorder. The software will start camcorder playing via Firewire
    (goes both ways) when you hit Record on the capture software. It might
    ask you where you want to save the file first.

    Here's two workarounds. First, bring up Windows Movie Maker, and try
    capture that way. Another method, is www.ulead.com and download free
    30 day trial of Video Studio 10. VS10 is very easy to use and
    bulletproof.

    Come back again if these don't work as you then have some other type of
    problem. Troubleshoot by changing Firewire cable, go to another
    computer. Any XP computer should work as it has free Windows Movie
    Maker installed, just for a check.

    This is the world of video editing. What seems very simple, isn't.
    Welcome to our world.

    Jim
     
    Scubajam, Dec 23, 2006
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    xmradio Guest

    I have a sony hc36. Here is what I use to capture junk:

    windows movie maker
    canopus edius 3

    Why anybody would bother with pinnacle stuff??? I went to pinnacle's web
    site, don't see any special/extra features they have. Might have missed
    them, or just so well hidden...

    xman
     
    xmradio, Dec 24, 2006
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