Playing with LR5

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Savageduck, Nov 14, 2013.

  1. Savageduck

    PeterN Guest

    On 11/14/2013 7:25 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
    > On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:19:02 -0500, PeterN
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> On 11/14/2013 2:40 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >> <sni>
    >>
    >>>
    >>> The way I look at it, I just skip two Subway sandwiches a month and I
    >>> have my Photoshop/Lightroom habit covered, and i don't have to worry
    >>> about justifying any further updates as the CC has that covered.
    >>>

    >>
    >> I do not miss too many meals, although it would probably do me good if I
    >> skimped on a few meals a month, and cut out my ice cream.

    >
    > I'm an ice cream junkie, but my wife has declared that we will only
    > have frozen yogurt in the house. I'm so used to it that real ice
    > cream now tastes almost too rich.
    >


    I hate the taste of yogurt. I have tried it in various incarnations, but
    to me, it has a dry, almost sour taste. I have compromised, and will
    eat fruit, which is quite good.

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    PeterN, Nov 15, 2013
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  2. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2013-11-15 01:15:33 +0000, PeterN <> said:

    > On 11/14/2013 1:29 PM, Savageduck wrote:



    >> I am sure that just as you find/found stuff to use from the NIK
    >> Collection, you will find stuff which works for you out of the OnOne
    >> Suite. I just enjoy the discovery of new tools and methods to employ. It
    >> also gives me incentive to return to old shots which were
    >> processed/edited when I was a Photoshop/Lightroom ignoramus.
    >>

    >
    > The other ay I was playing with some old images. I found some that I
    > really liked. These images were taken with, a point and shoot; my D200;
    > and my D300. Even though I like some of the images, they have to be
    > processed differently than the images from the D800.


    Here is one I just revisited and dealt with using LR5.
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8673-E1c.jpg >

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  3. Savageduck

    PeterN Guest

    On 11/15/2013 2:58 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    > On 2013-11-15 01:15:33 +0000, PeterN <> said:
    >
    >> On 11/14/2013 1:29 PM, Savageduck wrote:

    >
    >
    >>> I am sure that just as you find/found stuff to use from the NIK
    >>> Collection, you will find stuff which works for you out of the OnOne
    >>> Suite. I just enjoy the discovery of new tools and methods to employ. It
    >>> also gives me incentive to return to old shots which were
    >>> processed/edited when I was a Photoshop/Lightroom ignoramus.
    >>>

    >>
    >> The other ay I was playing with some old images. I found some that I
    >> really liked. These images were taken with, a point and shoot; my
    >> D200; and my D300. Even though I like some of the images, they have to
    >> be processed differently than the images from the D800.

    >
    > Here is one I just revisited and dealt with using LR5.
    > < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8673-E1c.jpg >
    >


    I think i've seen that image before. Was it in the SI?
    I liked in then and I like it now.

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  4. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2013-11-15 14:48:14 +0000, PeterN <> said:

    > On 11/15/2013 2:58 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    >> On 2013-11-15 01:15:33 +0000, PeterN <> said:
    >>
    >>> On 11/14/2013 1:29 PM, Savageduck wrote:

    >>
    >>
    >>>> I am sure that just as you find/found stuff to use from the NIK
    >>>> Collection, you will find stuff which works for you out of the OnOne
    >>>> Suite. I just enjoy the discovery of new tools and methods to employ. It
    >>>> also gives me incentive to return to old shots which were
    >>>> processed/edited when I was a Photoshop/Lightroom ignoramus.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> The other ay I was playing with some old images. I found some that I
    >>> really liked. These images were taken with, a point and shoot; my
    >>> D200; and my D300. Even though I like some of the images, they have to
    >>> be processed differently than the images from the D800.

    >>
    >> Here is one I just revisited and dealt with using LR5.
    >> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8673-E1c.jpg >
    >>

    >
    > I think i've seen that image before. Was it in the SI?
    > I liked in then and I like it now.


    Same girl, but two shots further on in the series of 8 shots
    (DNC_8675). I hadn't worked on that particular shot (DNC_8673) before
    and this is the first time I have had a JPEG to share. I shot about
    1200 images that day, including the 8 of that girl as she came up the
    hill and rode past me. Here is the shot you remember.
    <
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/Shared Images/WTF-2012w/DNC_8675w.jpg
    >



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    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Nov 15, 2013
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  5. Savageduck

    PeterN Guest

    On 11/15/2013 10:34 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    > On 2013-11-15 14:48:14 +0000, PeterN <> said:
    >
    >> On 11/15/2013 2:58 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>> On 2013-11-15 01:15:33 +0000, PeterN <> said:
    >>>
    >>>> On 11/14/2013 1:29 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>> I am sure that just as you find/found stuff to use from the NIK
    >>>>> Collection, you will find stuff which works for you out of the OnOne
    >>>>> Suite. I just enjoy the discovery of new tools and methods to
    >>>>> employ. It
    >>>>> also gives me incentive to return to old shots which were
    >>>>> processed/edited when I was a Photoshop/Lightroom ignoramus.
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> The other ay I was playing with some old images. I found some that I
    >>>> really liked. These images were taken with, a point and shoot; my
    >>>> D200; and my D300. Even though I like some of the images, they have to
    >>>> be processed differently than the images from the D800.
    >>>
    >>> Here is one I just revisited and dealt with using LR5.
    >>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8673-E1c.jpg >
    >>>

    >>
    >> I think i've seen that image before. Was it in the SI?
    >> I liked in then and I like it now.

    >
    > Same girl, but two shots further on in the series of 8 shots (DNC_8675).
    > I hadn't worked on that particular shot (DNC_8673) before and this is
    > the first time I have had a JPEG to share. I shot about 1200 images that
    > day, including the 8 of that girl as she came up the hill and rode past
    > me. Here is the shot you remember.
    > <
    > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/Shared Images/WTF-2012w/DNC_8675w.jpg
    >
    >>

    >
    >


    OK! I guess my memory is not that bad. I like the second one better,
    because to my eye, it shows more intensity. But, what is her secret? I
    expected here to be sweating.

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    PeterN, Nov 15, 2013
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  6. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2013-11-15 17:07:32 +0000, PeterN <> said:

    > On 11/15/2013 10:34 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    >> On 2013-11-15 14:48:14 +0000, PeterN <> said:
    >>
    >>> On 11/15/2013 2:58 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>> On 2013-11-15 01:15:33 +0000, PeterN <> said:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On 11/14/2013 1:29 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>> I am sure that just as you find/found stuff to use from the NIK
    >>>>>> Collection, you will find stuff which works for you out of the OnOne
    >>>>>> Suite. I just enjoy the discovery of new tools and methods to
    >>>>>> employ. It
    >>>>>> also gives me incentive to return to old shots which were
    >>>>>> processed/edited when I was a Photoshop/Lightroom ignoramus.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The other ay I was playing with some old images. I found some that I
    >>>>> really liked. These images were taken with, a point and shoot; my
    >>>>> D200; and my D300. Even though I like some of the images, they have to
    >>>>> be processed differently than the images from the D800.
    >>>>
    >>>> Here is one I just revisited and dealt with using LR5.
    >>>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8673-E1c.jpg >
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> I think i've seen that image before. Was it in the SI?
    >>> I liked in then and I like it now.

    >>
    >> Same girl, but two shots further on in the series of 8 shots (DNC_8675).
    >> I hadn't worked on that particular shot (DNC_8673) before and this is
    >> the first time I have had a JPEG to share. I shot about 1200 images that
    >> day, including the 8 of that girl as she came up the hill and rode past
    >> me. Here is the shot you remember.
    >> <
    >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/Shared Images/WTF-2012w/DNC_8675w.jpg






    OK!
    >>

    > I guess my memory is not that bad. I like the second one better,
    > because to my eye, it shows more intensity. But, what is her secret? I
    > expected here to be sweating.


    Check the salt from dried sweat on her arm, and there is a drop on her
    cheek. She was on one of the women's Pro teams and was well ahead of
    many of the men, like these guys coming up the same hill some 65 frames
    after her.
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8728-E1w.jpg >

    ....and here is one working guy with a before&after on LR5.
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_366.jpg >


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    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Nov 15, 2013
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  7. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2013-11-15 17:54:56 +0000, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> said:

    > On 2013-11-15 17:07:32 +0000, PeterN <> said:
    >
    >> On 11/15/2013 10:34 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>> On 2013-11-15 14:48:14 +0000, PeterN <> said:
    >>>
    >>>> On 11/15/2013 2:58 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>> On 2013-11-15 01:15:33 +0000, PeterN <> said:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On 11/14/2013 1:29 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>> I am sure that just as you find/found stuff to use from the NIK
    >>>>>>> Collection, you will find stuff which works for you out of the OnOne
    >>>>>>> Suite. I just enjoy the discovery of new tools and methods to
    >>>>>>> employ. It
    >>>>>>> also gives me incentive to return to old shots which were
    >>>>>>> processed/edited when I was a Photoshop/Lightroom ignoramus.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The other ay I was playing with some old images. I found some that I
    >>>>>> really liked. These images were taken with, a point and shoot; my
    >>>>>> D200; and my D300. Even though I like some of the images, they have to
    >>>>>> be processed differently than the images from the D800.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Here is one I just revisited and dealt with using LR5.
    >>>>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8673-E1c.jpg >
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> I think i've seen that image before. Was it in the SI?
    >>>> I liked in then and I like it now.
    >>>
    >>> Same girl, but two shots further on in the series of 8 shots (DNC_8675).
    >>> I hadn't worked on that particular shot (DNC_8673) before and this is
    >>> the first time I have had a JPEG to share. I shot about 1200 images that
    >>> day, including the 8 of that girl as she came up the hill and rode past
    >>> me. Here is the shot you remember.
    >>> <
    >>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/Shared Images/WTF-2012w/DNC_8675w.jpg






    OK!

    I
    >>>

    >> guess my memory is not that bad. I like the second one better, because
    >> to my eye, it shows more intensity. But, what is her secret? I expected
    >> here to be sweating.

    >
    > Check the salt from dried sweat on her arm, and there is a drop on her
    > cheek. She was on one of the women's Pro teams and was well ahead of
    > many of the men, like these guys coming up the same hill some 65 frames
    > after her.
    > < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8728-E1w.jpg >
    >
    > ...and here is one working guy with a before&after on LR5.
    > < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_366.jpg >


    ....and about 50 frames ahead of the previously "low sweat" girl was
    this "low sweat" girl.
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8620-E1w.jpg >

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    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Nov 15, 2013
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  8. Savageduck

    PeterN Guest

    On 11/15/2013 1:12 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    > On 2013-11-15 17:54:56 +0000, Savageduck
    > <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> said:
    >
    >> On 2013-11-15 17:07:32 +0000, PeterN <> said:
    >>
    >>> On 11/15/2013 10:34 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>> On 2013-11-15 14:48:14 +0000, PeterN <>
    >>>> said:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On 11/15/2013 2:58 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>>> On 2013-11-15 01:15:33 +0000, PeterN <>
    >>>>>> said:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 11/14/2013 1:29 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> I am sure that just as you find/found stuff to use from the NIK
    >>>>>>>> Collection, you will find stuff which works for you out of the
    >>>>>>>> OnOne
    >>>>>>>> Suite. I just enjoy the discovery of new tools and methods to
    >>>>>>>> employ. It
    >>>>>>>> also gives me incentive to return to old shots which were
    >>>>>>>> processed/edited when I was a Photoshop/Lightroom ignoramus.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> The other ay I was playing with some old images. I found some that I
    >>>>>>> really liked. These images were taken with, a point and shoot; my
    >>>>>>> D200; and my D300. Even though I like some of the images, they
    >>>>>>> have to
    >>>>>>> be processed differently than the images from the D800.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Here is one I just revisited and dealt with using LR5.
    >>>>>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8673-E1c.jpg >
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I think i've seen that image before. Was it in the SI?
    >>>>> I liked in then and I like it now.
    >>>>
    >>>> Same girl, but two shots further on in the series of 8 shots
    >>>> (DNC_8675).
    >>>> I hadn't worked on that particular shot (DNC_8673) before and this is
    >>>> the first time I have had a JPEG to share. I shot about 1200 images
    >>>> that
    >>>> day, including the 8 of that girl as she came up the hill and rode past
    >>>> me. Here is the shot you remember.
    >>>> <
    >>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/Shared Images/WTF-2012w/DNC_8675w.jpg
    >>>>

    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > OK!
    >
    > I
    >>>>
    >>> guess my memory is not that bad. I like the second one better,
    >>> because to my eye, it shows more intensity. But, what is her secret?
    >>> I expected here to be sweating.

    >>
    >> Check the salt from dried sweat on her arm, and there is a drop on her
    >> cheek. She was on one of the women's Pro teams and was well ahead of
    >> many of the men, like these guys coming up the same hill some 65
    >> frames after her.
    >> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8728-E1w.jpg >
    >>
    >> ...and here is one working guy with a before&after on LR5.
    >> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_366.jpg >

    >
    > ...and about 50 frames ahead of the previously "low sweat" girl was this
    > "low sweat" girl.
    > < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8620-E1w.jpg >
    >


    They must be WASPS. I've heard that WASPS don't sweat. :p



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  9. Savageduck

    Frank S Guest

    "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
    news:201311142358161905-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...
    > On 2013-11-15 01:15:33 +0000, PeterN <>
    > said:
    >
    >> On 11/14/2013 1:29 PM, Savageduck wrote:

    >
    >
    >>> I am sure that just as you find/found stuff to use from the NIK
    >>> Collection, you will find stuff which works for you out of the OnOne
    >>> Suite. I just enjoy the discovery of new tools and methods to
    >>> employ. It
    >>> also gives me incentive to return to old shots which were
    >>> processed/edited when I was a Photoshop/Lightroom ignoramus.
    >>>

    >>
    >> The other ay I was playing with some old images. I found some that I
    >> really liked. These images were taken with, a point and shoot; my
    >> D200; and my D300. Even though I like some of the images, they have
    >> to be processed differently than the images from the D800.

    >
    > Here is one I just revisited and dealt with using LR5.
    > < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8673-E1c.jpg >
    >
    > --
    > Regards,
    >
    > Savageduck
    >


    Seen this?

    http://www.creativepro.com/article/image-editing-lightroom-5-raw-or-jpeg


    Frank ess
     
    Frank S, Nov 15, 2013
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  10. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2013-11-15 18:47:08 +0000, PeterN <> said:

    > On 11/15/2013 1:12 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >> On 2013-11-15 17:54:56 +0000, Savageduck
    >> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> said:
    >>
    >>> On 2013-11-15 17:07:32 +0000, PeterN <> said:
    >>>
    >>>> On 11/15/2013 10:34 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>> On 2013-11-15 14:48:14 +0000, PeterN <>
    >>>>> said:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On 11/15/2013 2:58 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>>>> On 2013-11-15 01:15:33 +0000, PeterN <>
    >>>>>>> said:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On 11/14/2013 1:29 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> I am sure that just as you find/found stuff to use from the NIK
    >>>>>>>>> Collection, you will find stuff which works for you out of the
    >>>>>>>>> OnOne
    >>>>>>>>> Suite. I just enjoy the discovery of new tools and methods to
    >>>>>>>>> employ. It
    >>>>>>>>> also gives me incentive to return to old shots which were
    >>>>>>>>> processed/edited when I was a Photoshop/Lightroom ignoramus.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> The other ay I was playing with some old images. I found some that I
    >>>>>>>> really liked. These images were taken with, a point and shoot; my
    >>>>>>>> D200; and my D300. Even though I like some of the images, they
    >>>>>>>> have to
    >>>>>>>> be processed differently than the images from the D800.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Here is one I just revisited and dealt with using LR5.
    >>>>>>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8673-E1c.jpg >
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I think i've seen that image before. Was it in the SI?
    >>>>>> I liked in then and I like it now.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Same girl, but two shots further on in the series of 8 shots
    >>>>> (DNC_8675).
    >>>>> I hadn't worked on that particular shot (DNC_8673) before and this is
    >>>>> the first time I have had a JPEG to share. I shot about 1200 images
    >>>>> that
    >>>>> day, including the 8 of that girl as she came up the hill and rode past
    >>>>> me. Here is the shot you remember.
    >>>>> <
    >>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/Shared Images/WTF-2012w/DNC_8675w.jpg







    OK!

    I

    guess
    >>>>>
    >>>> my memory is not that bad. I like the second one better,
    >>>> because to my eye, it shows more intensity. But, what is her secret?
    >>>> I expected here to be sweating.
    >>>
    >>> Check the salt from dried sweat on her arm, and there is a drop on her
    >>> cheek. She was on one of the women's Pro teams and was well ahead of
    >>> many of the men, like these guys coming up the same hill some 65
    >>> frames after her.
    >>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8728-E1w.jpg >
    >>>
    >>> ...and here is one working guy with a before&after on LR5.
    >>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_366.jpg >

    >>
    >> ...and about 50 frames ahead of the previously "low sweat" girl was this
    >> "low sweat" girl.
    >> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8620-E1w.jpg >
    >>

    >
    > They must be WASPS. I've heard that WASPS don't sweat. :p


    They are both elite athletes, which explains the problem men had
    keeping pace with them. The girl in blue is a Canadian "Ice-maiden"
    with a PhD in sports Psychology. The other is a Professional
    Tri-Athlete from Napa County "Wine Country", there is something to be
    said for a good wine in your training regimen.
    Both are in their mid-30's, are married, and have kids.

    As for their "WASP-ishness", who knows?



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    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Nov 15, 2013
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  11. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2013-11-15 19:04:35 +0000, "Frank S" <> said:

    >
    > "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
    > news:201311142358161905-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...
    >> On 2013-11-15 01:15:33 +0000, PeterN <> said:
    >>
    >>> On 11/14/2013 1:29 PM, Savageduck wrote:

    >>
    >>
    >>>> I am sure that just as you find/found stuff to use from the NIK
    >>>> Collection, you will find stuff which works for you out of the OnOne
    >>>> Suite. I just enjoy the discovery of new tools and methods to employ. It
    >>>> also gives me incentive to return to old shots which were
    >>>> processed/edited when I was a Photoshop/Lightroom ignoramus.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> The other ay I was playing with some old images. I found some that I
    >>> really liked. These images were taken with, a point and shoot; my D200;
    >>> and my D300. Even though I like some of the images, they have to be
    >>> processed differently than the images from the D800.

    >>
    >> Here is one I just revisited and dealt with using LR5.
    >> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8673-E1c.jpg >
    >>
    >> --
    >> Regards,
    >>
    >> Savageduck
    >>

    >
    > Seen this?
    >
    > http://www.creativepro.com/article/image-editing-lightroom-5-raw-or-jpeg
    >
    >
    > Frank ess
    >


    I hadn't seen that particular article before, but that said, I have
    been shooting RAW since 2004 when I bought my D70. I very seldom work
    on original JPEGs.
    I have been a Photoshop user starting with PS LE to PS7, and on through
    a bunch of CS upgrades. I have also used Lightroom from the Beta to the
    current LR5, which is actually just about all most photographers
    shooting RAW (or JPEG, but they wouldn't get the best out of it) would
    need. I find myself doing much more in Lightroom these days, and the
    new features are very welcome.
    That said, much of my workflow integrates lightroom and Photoshop.


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    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Nov 15, 2013
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    PeterN Guest

    On 11/15/2013 2:04 PM, Frank S wrote:
    >
    > "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
    > news:201311142358161905-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...
    >> On 2013-11-15 01:15:33 +0000, PeterN <> said:
    >>
    >>> On 11/14/2013 1:29 PM, Savageduck wrote:

    >>
    >>
    >>>> I am sure that just as you find/found stuff to use from the NIK
    >>>> Collection, you will find stuff which works for you out of the OnOne
    >>>> Suite. I just enjoy the discovery of new tools and methods to
    >>>> employ. It
    >>>> also gives me incentive to return to old shots which were
    >>>> processed/edited when I was a Photoshop/Lightroom ignoramus.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> The other ay I was playing with some old images. I found some that I
    >>> really liked. These images were taken with, a point and shoot; my
    >>> D200; and my D300. Even though I like some of the images, they have
    >>> to be processed differently than the images from the D800.

    >>
    >> Here is one I just revisited and dealt with using LR5.
    >> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8673-E1c.jpg >
    >>
    >> --
    >> Regards,
    >>
    >> Savageduck
    >>

    >
    > Seen this?
    >
    > http://www.creativepro.com/article/image-editing-lightroom-5-raw-or-jpeg
    >
    >
    > Frank ess
    >
    >


    That is an interesting article. It reaffirms why I almost always shoot
    in RAW.


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    PeterN, Nov 15, 2013
    #32
  13. Savageduck

    Wally Guest

    Lightroom 5 is a great product, but while adding features, the program
    stubbornly retains bugs that were present a couple of major versions
    ago.

    One such bug is Lightroom's frequent inability to change folder names
    (in Library, then right-click on the folder name). The workaround is
    to rename in Windows Explorer (which always works), and then back in
    Lightroom, click on the lost folder and navigate to find it.

    Another annoying and long-standing bug is that sometimes the pic
    displayed won't be sharp (in Develop). I'm looking at the day's shoot,
    and trying to decide which of 12 similar shots to keep... there's one
    that is unsharp, might as well delete it. But I'm a bit suspicious --
    I don't see LR "Loading..." Let's have a look at it in Irfanview!
    Sharp as a tack. The workaround in LR is to close the prog and
    relaunch.

    I'm sure it must be exciting to introduce new bells and whistles, and
    it's laborious tracking down bugs. but they are annoying and time
    consuming, so please get on it, Adobe.

    Phew, back on topic.

    W


    On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 11:07:18 -0800, Savageduck
    <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

    >On 2013-11-15 18:47:08 +0000, PeterN <> said:
    >
    >> On 11/15/2013 1:12 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>> On 2013-11-15 17:54:56 +0000, Savageduck
    >>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> said:
    >>>
    >>>> On 2013-11-15 17:07:32 +0000, PeterN <> said:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On 11/15/2013 10:34 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>>> On 2013-11-15 14:48:14 +0000, PeterN <>
    >>>>>> said:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 11/15/2013 2:58 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>>>>> On 2013-11-15 01:15:33 +0000, PeterN <>
    >>>>>>>> said:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> On 11/14/2013 1:29 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> I am sure that just as you find/found stuff to use from the NIK
    >>>>>>>>>> Collection, you will find stuff which works for you out of the
    >>>>>>>>>> OnOne
    >>>>>>>>>> Suite. I just enjoy the discovery of new tools and methods to
    >>>>>>>>>> employ. It
    >>>>>>>>>> also gives me incentive to return to old shots which were
    >>>>>>>>>> processed/edited when I was a Photoshop/Lightroom ignoramus.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> The other ay I was playing with some old images. I found some that I
    >>>>>>>>> really liked. These images were taken with, a point and shoot; my
    >>>>>>>>> D200; and my D300. Even though I like some of the images, they
    >>>>>>>>> have to
    >>>>>>>>> be processed differently than the images from the D800.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Here is one I just revisited and dealt with using LR5.
    >>>>>>>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8673-E1c.jpg >
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I think i've seen that image before. Was it in the SI?
    >>>>>>> I liked in then and I like it now.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Same girl, but two shots further on in the series of 8 shots
    >>>>>> (DNC_8675).
    >>>>>> I hadn't worked on that particular shot (DNC_8673) before and this is
    >>>>>> the first time I have had a JPEG to share. I shot about 1200 images
    >>>>>> that
    >>>>>> day, including the 8 of that girl as she came up the hill and rode past
    >>>>>> me. Here is the shot you remember.
    >>>>>> <
    >>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/Shared Images/WTF-2012w/DNC_8675w.jpg

    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >OK!
    >
    >I
    >
    >guess
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> my memory is not that bad. I like the second one better,
    >>>>> because to my eye, it shows more intensity. But, what is her secret?
    >>>>> I expected here to be sweating.
    >>>>
    >>>> Check the salt from dried sweat on her arm, and there is a drop on her
    >>>> cheek. She was on one of the women's Pro teams and was well ahead of
    >>>> many of the men, like these guys coming up the same hill some 65
    >>>> frames after her.
    >>>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8728-E1w.jpg >
    >>>>
    >>>> ...and here is one working guy with a before&after on LR5.
    >>>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_366.jpg >
    >>>
    >>> ...and about 50 frames ahead of the previously "low sweat" girl was this
    >>> "low sweat" girl.
    >>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC_8620-E1w.jpg >
    >>>

    >>
    >> They must be WASPS. I've heard that WASPS don't sweat. :p

    >
    >They are both elite athletes, which explains the problem men had
    >keeping pace with them. The girl in blue is a Canadian "Ice-maiden"
    >with a PhD in sports Psychology. The other is a Professional
    >Tri-Athlete from Napa County "Wine Country", there is something to be
    >said for a good wine in your training regimen.
    >Both are in their mid-30's, are married, and have kids.
    >
    >As for their "WASP-ishness", who knows?
     
    Wally, Nov 15, 2013
    #33
  14. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2013-11-15 22:26:31 +0000, Wally <> said:

    > Lightroom 5 is a great product, but while adding features, the program
    > stubbornly retains bugs that were present a couple of major versions
    > ago.
    >
    > One such bug is Lightroom's frequent inability to change folder names
    > (in Library, then right-click on the folder name). The workaround is
    > to rename in Windows Explorer (which always works), and then back in
    > Lightroom, click on the lost folder and navigate to find it.


    I will start by saying that I use Lightroom and Photoshop on a Mac, and
    I have been using Lightroom since the original "Beta". I have found
    that provided I let Lightroom complete an import before screwing with
    the catalog &/or folders everything works smoothly.

    I am not going to start a preferred OS battle here. I use OSX you use
    Windows. With very few exceptions Lightroom & Photoshop behave the same
    way in either OS.

    It is important to let Lightroom maintain the catalog, once you start
    renaming and moving folders and file locations outside the Lightroom
    environment you screw things up.

    All of my Lightroom imports usually go into a date labeled folder. Once
    the import is complete, I have no trouble at all renaming the folder in
    "Library". My protocol is to maintain the capture date and add a
    description with the right click "Rename".
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_367w.jpg >

    > Another annoying and long-standing bug is that sometimes the pic
    > displayed won't be sharp (in Develop). I'm looking at the day's shoot,
    > and trying to decide which of 12 similar shots to keep... there's one
    > that is unsharp, might as well delete it. But I'm a bit suspicious --
    > I don't see LR "Loading..." Let's have a look at it in Irfanview!
    > Sharp as a tack. The workaround in LR is to close the prog and
    > relaunch.


    Check on your preview settings for imports. I use "Standard", make sure
    that all the import processes including the preview builds are complete
    before browsing otherwise everything slows down. That said, I haven't
    experienced the phenomenon you describe.
    If I want to make a "larger than thumbnail" check on a batch of images,
    say shot at a high frame rate on a high speed pass. I select from the
    strip thumbnails and use the "Survey" option.
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_368.jpg >

    > I'm sure it must be exciting to introduce new bells and whistles, and
    > it's laborious tracking down bugs. but they are annoying and time
    > consuming, so please get on it, Adobe.


    They have, they have. Just remember, one man's feature is another man's bug.

    > Phew, back on topic.


    You have been on topic for this thread and for the photo NGs.

    --
    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Nov 15, 2013
    #34
  15. Savageduck

    Wally Guest

    On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 15:30:37 -0800, Savageduck
    <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

    >On 2013-11-15 22:26:31 +0000, Wally <> said:
    >
    >> Lightroom 5 is a great product, but while adding features, the program
    >> stubbornly retains bugs that were present a couple of major versions
    >> ago.
    >>
    >> One such bug is Lightroom's frequent inability to change folder names
    >> (in Library, then right-click on the folder name). The workaround is
    >> to rename in Windows Explorer (which always works), and then back in
    >> Lightroom, click on the lost folder and navigate to find it.

    >
    >I will start by saying that I use Lightroom and Photoshop on a Mac, and
    >I have been using Lightroom since the original "Beta". I have found
    >that provided I let Lightroom complete an import before screwing with
    >the catalog &/or folders everything works smoothly.
    >
    >I am not going to start a preferred OS battle here. I use OSX you use
    >Windows. With very few exceptions Lightroom & Photoshop behave the same
    >way in either OS.
    >
    >It is important to let Lightroom maintain the catalog, once you start
    >renaming and moving folders and file locations outside the Lightroom
    >environment you screw things up.
    >
    >All of my Lightroom imports usually go into a date labeled folder. Once
    >the import is complete, I have no trouble at all renaming the folder in
    >"Library". My protocol is to maintain the capture date and add a
    >description with the right click "Rename".
    >< https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_367w.jpg >


    Yes, works the same in Windows 7 (my OS). Except that around 50% of
    the time LR balks.

    Knowing this, before hitting Enter, I highlight the descriptive string
    that I add to the name, and copy it to the clipboard. If LR won't
    rename, I try again, copying the string from the clipboard. Sometimes
    it works on the 2nd try, and sometimes on the 3rd, but after that I
    give up and do it in WinExp.

    This workaround including getting LR to find the folder and use it
    always works flawlessly. It does not harm the catalog.

    >> Another annoying and long-standing bug is that sometimes the pic
    >> displayed won't be sharp (in Develop). I'm looking at the day's shoot,
    >> and trying to decide which of 12 similar shots to keep... there's one
    >> that is unsharp, might as well delete it. But I'm a bit suspicious --
    >> I don't see LR "Loading..." Let's have a look at it in Irfanview!
    >> Sharp as a tack. The workaround in LR is to close the prog and
    >> relaunch.

    >
    >Check on your preview settings for imports. I use "Standard", make sure
    >that all the import processes including the preview builds are complete
    >before browsing otherwise everything slows down. That said, I haven't
    >experienced the phenomenon you describe.
    >If I want to make a "larger than thumbnail" check on a batch of images,
    >say shot at a high frame rate on a high speed pass. I select from the
    >strip thumbnails and use the "Survey" option.
    >< https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_368.jpg >


    I do a lot of nature photography (birds, bugs) and need to check for
    accurate focus -- by inspecting at 100%. LR is wonderfully set up for
    quickly reviewing shots like this, and usually does great, but once in
    a while it shows a fuzzy image. The image appears immediately (instead
    of calculating for a moment) and without the "Loading" message.

    In such a situation, usually only one or two pics on the filmstrip are
    affected. The others display correctly. Closing and restarting LR
    brings it back to its senses. All shots are sharp. That is, until an
    hour or so later, when another pic falls victim.

    The trick is to recognize that it is LR and not the pic. After
    pounding through 400 shots, that can be a challenge.

    W
     
    Wally, Nov 16, 2013
    #35
  16. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    Savageduck, Nov 16, 2013
    #36
  17. Savageduck

    PeterN Guest

    PeterN, Nov 17, 2013
    #37
  18. Savageduck

    Tony Cooper Guest

    On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:23:25 -0500, PeterN
    <> wrote:

    >On 11/16/2013 4:58 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >> Another LR5 workout on a tough archive shot shot in my pre-HDR days,
    >> back in 2005
    >>
    >> Original compared with LR adjusted.
    >> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_371.jpg >
    >>
    >>

    >
    >Is it fair to say you like lR5?


    You get the feeling he's knocking at the door with a copy of the Adobe
    Watchtower?
    --
    Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
     
    Tony Cooper, Nov 17, 2013
    #38
  19. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2013-11-17 03:23:25 +0000, PeterN <> said:

    > On 11/16/2013 4:58 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >> Another LR5 workout on a tough archive shot shot in my pre-HDR days,
    >> back in 2005
    >>
    >> Original compared with LR adjusted.
    >> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_371.jpg >
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Is it fair to say you like lR5?


    Yup!

    --
    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Nov 17, 2013
    #39
  20. Savageduck

    PeterN Guest

    On 11/16/2013 10:37 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
    > On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:23:25 -0500, PeterN
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> On 11/16/2013 4:58 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>> Another LR5 workout on a tough archive shot shot in my pre-HDR days,
    >>> back in 2005
    >>>
    >>> Original compared with LR adjusted.
    >>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_371.jpg >
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Is it fair to say you like lR5?

    >
    > You get the feeling he's knocking at the door with a copy of the Adobe
    > Watchtower?
    >


    Betcha he's not wearing a white shirt & tie

    --
    PeterN
     
    PeterN, Nov 17, 2013
    #40
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