Portrait/Glamour Retouch Help.

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Engelkott, Sep 12, 2004.

  1. Engelkott

    Engelkott Guest

    Hi!

    I have searched the web and looked through a couple of books that i
    have (A Comprehensive Guide To Digital Portrait Photography, Photoshop
    CD for Photogrpahers, Photoshop CS: The Art of Photographing Women and
    Digital Nude Photography) but to no avail!

    What i am looking for is a guide on how to improve the bust on a
    woman. I am not referring to some weird balloon type of editing but
    something subtle for both clothed and unclothed models.

    Some of my clients ask for me to give them a little more and none of
    the guide i have looked at have covered this even though i know it is
    done a lot in magazines and film posters (the King Arthur film poster
    springs to mind).

    I would be grateful for any help you can offer even if it is just
    pointing me in the direction of the correct Photoshop tool for the
    job. A photography webside did mention a 'sphereize' tool but i could
    not find that in CS.

    Many thanks,

    Graham
     
    Engelkott, Sep 12, 2004
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  2. Engelkott

    Hunt Guest

    Graham,

    The Liquify adjustment Filter in CS is a good starting place. You might want
    to Vtrl-c/Ctrl-v the area to be worked on to a new Layer above your image,
    and, once you have made the size where you want it, use a Layer Mask to blend
    the corrected Layer.

    Ben Wilmore covers some of these techniques (on other areas of the human
    anatomy, like eyes) in Adobe Photoshop CS Studio Techniques, Adobe Press. You
    can take most of what he does, and just apply the tips to where you want a
    size increase.

    Hunt
     
    Hunt, Sep 13, 2004
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  3. Engelkott

    Engelkott Guest

    Thanks for the tip, i have the book on order at Amazon now! :)

    Graham
     
    Engelkott, Sep 13, 2004
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  4. Engelkott

    Engelkott Guest

    I did have a look at morphin programs but from what i could see there
    was not a good enough level of control but maybe the programs i looked
    at, which were budget ones, did not offer enough features?

    Thanks for the tip though and congratulations on the 44DD! Don't be
    greedy, remember the starving in Africa! :)

    Graham
     
    Engelkott, Sep 13, 2004
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  5. Engelkott

    Engelkott Guest

    Thank you very much for a such a detailed response to my question! The
    desired effect i was looking for was of the subtle variety in
    situations where the model can't wear a bra, where the bra does not
    have much to work with or for someone who would like a little bit of a
    lift. I am not looking for the Anna Nicole Smith effect or any of the
    other Playmates.

    As i mentioned, these are mainly at the request of the model rather
    than myself as i am a fan of the smaller variety myself and what the
    model requests i try to supply as long as it is within reason.

    Once again, thanks for your tips and i look forward to giving them a
    go!

    Graham
     
    Engelkott, Sep 13, 2004
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  6. Before getting into major Photoshop work have tried adjusting the poses to
    enhance the bust or changing you focal length to something a little more
    wide? Also you way want to tell you clients looking for enhancement to wear
    something that causes the effect (Wonderbra etc) It's much easier to fix
    these issues pre photo shop with lighting, poses, padding etc than in
    Photoshop
     
    Ray Creveling, Sep 13, 2004
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  7. Engelkott

    Skip M Guest

    I was going to suggest that, even though I've only used it in a subtractive
    role, i.e. to tuck a slightly bulging tummy or chin...
     
    Skip M, Sep 13, 2004
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  8. Engelkott

    Hunt Guest

    Graham,

    I recommend this book for most photography questions when using Photoshop.
    Because it is written from a photographer's pov, and not a programmer's it has
    a wealth of useful info. Be sure to spend a few days on Curves! One good thing
    about Wilmore too, is that while he doesn't cover everything in PS (who
    could?) he doesn't seem to give any bad, or incorrect advice. Other than a
    very few typos, and an image juxtaposition, or two, his book is almost
    perfect. There is also a book, specific to photo retouching, that I think has
    been mentioned. While I don't have it, it has received far too many
    recommendations to be anything but great. Check out the replys and see if you
    can find it - author's name begins with an E, I think and I also recall that
    the author is female. Too many swear by it to NOT have it, if you do
    retouching. Now, I'd better find it, and put it on order too!!!! <G>

    Hunt
     
    Hunt, Sep 13, 2004
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  9. Engelkott

    Hunt Guest

    A very good response. One might take a look at the glamour photography of the
    1950's thru early 1960's. The posing, while a bit stilted by today's standard,
    did just that - "accentuate the positive." An updated variation on some of
    those poses will really enhance what you have to work with. Manipulation of
    shadow can do wonders, too.

    Hunt

    PS I don't see the photo retouching book listed here, but I think I have
    enough to Google it up. When I get the title/author, I'll post it for you
    here.
     
    Hunt, Sep 13, 2004
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  10. Engelkott

    Hunt Guest

    Graham,

    The other book that I mentioned is: Photoshop Restoration and Retouching by
    Katrin Eismann. It is available at Amazon, plus many other on-line book
    sellers. As I stated, so many have recommended it, that it must be good!

    Hunt
     
    Hunt, Sep 13, 2004
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  11. Engelkott

    usenet Guest

    Kibo informs me that (Hunt) stated that:
    Possibly "Photoshop Restoration & Retouching" by Katrin Eismann? It has
    a couple of chapters on glamour retouching & similar topics.
     
    usenet, Sep 13, 2004
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  12. Engelkott

    Engelkott Guest

    I am looking for the CS version of Photoshop Restoration & Retouching
    as i have the PS 7 version and had forgotten about it! :)

    Thanks again for the feedback!

    Graham
     
    Engelkott, Sep 13, 2004
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  13. Engelkott

    Engelkott Guest

    Thanks for the tips and i will certainly take on board what you have
    said! However, a lot of the women in question are either braless under
    a loose top or are totally topless.

    I am aware of an old technique involving sellotape but i would not
    like to be around when it is time to peel it off! :)

    Thanks again,

    Graham
     
    Engelkott, Sep 13, 2004
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  14. Engelkott

    BenOne© Guest

    You must hate your job.
     
    BenOne©, Sep 13, 2004
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  15. Engelkott

    Hunt Guest

    No. That would not be a pleasent experience! Kinda' like shooting fashion in a
    cold studio (I always keep it about 60F for my personal comfort), and telling
    the young lady to make sure that her nipples don't show. Oh the looks I've
    gotten.

    Hunt

    PS disregard the poster in CGP about the X-posting and multi-group posting.
    He/she hasn't a clue. You did it right.
     
    Hunt, Sep 14, 2004
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  16. I realized after posting that my comments could be interpreted as sarcastic
    so thank you for taking them in the spirit intended. Also if you ever need
    an assistant..... :) .
     
    Ray Creveling, Sep 14, 2004
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  17. Engelkott

    kashe Guest


    I happened to notice a paragraph in an Amazon review which
    relates to your problem. I have no idea how good the book might be,
    but it could be worth looking up at a library or bookstore.

    ------------------------------------

    Retouching tips include performing digital "cosmetic surgery" (like
    slimming down a thigh and adding voluminous hair) and using
    Photoshop's adjustment layers, channels, and filters to achieve these
    effects.

    The Glitterguru on Photoshop: From Concept to Cool

    # Paperback: 250 pages ; Dimensions (in inches): 0.56 x 10.02 x 7.96
    # Publisher: Pearson Education; 1st edition (October 15, 2003)
    # ISBN: 073571133X
    # Average Customer Review: Based on 7 reviews. Write a review.
    # Amazon.com Sales Rank: 30,257

    List Price: $39.99
    Price: $27.19
     
    kashe, Sep 14, 2004
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  18. Engelkott

    Engelkott Guest

    I can imagine! :) I am someone who prefers the place on the cool side
    so it can be a little difficult to find a common ground.
    Thanks! These days it is hard to know what is right anymore. By multi
    posting the message in here i got better replies. :)

    Keep up the good work my friend!

    Graham
     
    Engelkott, Sep 14, 2004
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  19. Engelkott

    Engelkott Guest

    Not as much as i would have if i used tape!
     
    Engelkott, Sep 14, 2004
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  20. Engelkott

    Engelkott Guest

    No, it is ok! You gave me the benefit of the doubt so i gave it back!
    :) I am aware that there is a certain type of person around who would
    troll on a subject like this.

    Graham


    PS. About the assistant role, leave your number at reception! :)
     
    Engelkott, Sep 14, 2004
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