PowerShot Pro 1 vs. Olympus C-8080

Discussion in 'Olympus' started by jonfklein, Dec 31, 2005.

  1. jonfklein

    jonfklein Guest

    I contacted this group about a month ago asking for advice on buying a
    digital camera. Well, after a bit of research using dpreview almost
    exclusively I think I have narrowed it down to two cameras. I am
    considering either the Canon Powershot Pro 1 or the Olympus C-8080 Wide

    Zoom. (The latter is apparently discontinued by Olympus as it is no
    longer listed on their web site, but some are still available from
    retailers)


    I am having a tough time deciding beween the two since it appears the
    C-8080 has the better lens and takes better pictures overall whereas,
    in my opinion the Pro1 has a better menu system and LCD design, so I
    think it would be easier to use.


    Any opinions on which camera is better?


    -Jonathan Klein
     
    jonfklein, Dec 31, 2005
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    chrlz Guest

    As an 8080 owner, I can tell you that it is a fine camera, and the lens
    is probably the best on any prosumer, but...

    - yes, the menu system is awkward and not very intuitive
    - it has slow AF (although I don't think the Pro 1 is any better from
    reviews I have read)
    - it is a little noisy even at ISO 100 - I shoot at 50 most of the time
    because I like large clean prints. If you aren't going to print much
    beyond 11x8, and don't shoot a lot of low-light stuff, this probably
    wouldn't be an issue. Again, the Pro1 is about the same anyway.

    It may fly in the face of what you will read, but the only other 8mp I
    have a lot of time for (and have used extensively for work purposes) is
    the Sony DSC-F828. It has slightly cleaner images, significantly
    better AF, and the Zeiss lens is possibly even better in *general*
    terms than the Oly (and has more range and a manual zoom ring, oh
    joy!). It is only let down by the purple fringe issue, which may bite
    you occasionally. If I was buying an 8Mp right now, in hindsight, it
    would probably be the Sony. It's bulky, but built like a tank, and is
    a pleasure to use.
     
    chrlz, Dec 31, 2005
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    dj_nme Guest

    In my opinion (seeing as though you wont ever desire to print the menu
    system out) go for the better image quality.
    Go for which-ever one you think is better.
     
    dj_nme, Jan 1, 2006
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    PcB Guest

    <<I am having a tough time deciding beween the two since it appears the
    C-8080 has the better lens and takes better pictures overall whereas,
    in my opinion the Pro1 has a better menu system and LCD design, so I
    think it would be easier to use.>>

    What are you buying the camera for? If image quality is number one on your
    list then get the Olympus, otherwise get the Canon.

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    PcB, Jan 1, 2006
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    Keith Guest

    How did you determine the C-8080 had a better lens and takes better
    pictures? From what I've read, Canon used their "L" technology for the lens
    on the Pro1.
     
    Keith, Jan 1, 2006
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    eric.pouhier Guest

    To me, the C8080 is a fantastic machine with a fantastic optic and a
    reliable white balance. With little efforts and some practice great
    results can be obtained.

    This is really personnal, but I think colors rendering is more natural
    with the C8080 than with the Pro1.

    If you wish, you can check some of my photos here :
    http://www.pbase.com/ericdeparis/best_of_2005 all done with a C8080.

    I hope this will help you to decide !
    Best for 2006, ERic
     
    eric.pouhier, Jan 1, 2006
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    chrlz Guest

    Keith said:
    Well, my decision to buy the 8080 was largely weighted on image
    quality, and the evidence tipping the scale slightly towards the Oly is
    there at many review sites. At Imaging Resource...

    ========quote
    Olympus appears to have invested heavily in the 8080's lens, and it
    showed in the overall crispness and corner to corner sharpness of its
    images....
    Overall, the 8080.. differentiated itself by being sharper than most
    from corner to corner.

    whereas the Canon got...
    ========quote
    Overall, the Pro1's absolute resolving power was pretty much the same
    as the other leading 8-megapixel cameras.. its corner sharpness was
    about in the middle of the pack

    At DPReview...
    ========quote
    In joint first place come the Olympus C-8080 Wide Zoom and Canon
    PowerShot Pro1 delivering a mighty impressive 1700 - 1750 LPH (almost
    in both directions), visually the C-8080 may just have the edge over
    the Pro1 (the Olympus has the best lens here)

    At Steve's..
    ========quote
    The (Olympus) lens produced sharp results throughout the zoom range,
    but with noticeable barrel distortion at wide angle and slight pin
    cushioning at telephoto...the C-8080 is among the best of the new class
    of 8-megapixel consumer digicams at controlling CA.

    while the Canon got..
    ========quote
    Canon attached their L-series designation to this lens, and while it
    doesn't have quite the quality of the Canon EOS L-series lenses, you'll
    be pleased with the color and sharpness it produces.

    I don't think any of these sites is known for an Olympus-bias! So it
    sounds as if they are neck and neck with the Oly perhaps having a
    slight edge. Adding an 'L' does not guarantee a better lens than other
    manufacturers.
     
    chrlz, Jan 1, 2006
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    Keith Guest

     
    Keith, Jan 1, 2006
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    Keith Guest

    Thanks for that chrlz. I have a friend who is looking at the Canon Pro1 and
    the Sony DSC-828. I'll have him take a look at the Olympus as well.
     
    Keith, Jan 1, 2006
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    Jessie James Guest

    Just to upset the applecart, give both of them the miss and go for the
    Samsung Pro815. IMHO a much better camera than either. 8 Megapixel 15x zoom
    (420mm equiv) 3.5" lcd Very fast startup and no lag.

    Cheers Reg
     
    Jessie James, Jan 3, 2006
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    chrlz Guest

    No lag???

    Not that I believe everything I read on the web, but from dpreview:
    Hmm.

    That applecart remains as steady as a camera with IS.. (which, by the
    way, the Samsung *doesn't* have, despite that huge telephoto range.)
    If the OP is shooting anything that moves, like..er.. people, I would
    pass the Samsung by..
     
    chrlz, Jan 3, 2006
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    Jessie James Guest

    Well maybe I got a little bit to enthusiastic about the Samsung. But I have
    to admit I find it a lot better to use than the C-8080 which I bought and
    returned. I also have a Panasonic FZ-30 and find I am using the Samsung a
    lot more because of the quicker response times in various conditions. The
    Samsung may not have IS, but it does have HS, which is I suppose a poor mans
    version of IS. I have had no problems as yet taking photos of moving
    objects. I also like the easy access menu.One camera I was truly
    disappointed in was the Fuji S9500, (I previously have owned the Fuji S7000,
    S5500, S5000) it did not live up to the quality of the previous ones.
    shutter lag while in flash mode was actually painful to use, and Macro took
    a step back from the S7000.
     
    Jessie James, Jan 3, 2006
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    Keith Guest

    IS doesn't affect an image of "anything that moves". It only helps to avoid
    camera shake.
     
    Keith, Jan 6, 2006
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    Jay Guest

    Jessie,

    You returned Oly8080 and kept FZ30. Can you please compare these two cameras
    and why did you return Oly8080? Thanks a lot.

    Jay.
     
    Jay, Jan 22, 2006
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