Print With Preview Color Looks Different Than Screen

Discussion in 'Photoshop Tutorials' started by Alan Smithee, Sep 26, 2005.

  1. Alan Smithee

    Alan Smithee Guest

    Something that's been bugging me is that when I look at my photo in "print
    with preview" and drag the dialog off to the left or right to look at the
    original the colors look shifted, less saturated in most cases!? What's with
    that? Does print with preview not use the color managed version of the file?
     
    Alan Smithee, Sep 26, 2005
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  2. Alan Smithee

    Alan Smithee Guest

    In fact the "print with preview" looks more like what I'm seeing coming out
    of the printer?
     
    Alan Smithee, Sep 26, 2005
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  3. No, it doesn't. And if it did, it would not look similar to your image
    either, but would look like the 'soft proof' of your image using the
    printer profile.
     
    Johan W. Elzenga, Sep 26, 2005
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  4. Alan Smithee

    Alan Smithee Guest

    Oi yoi yoi! So what is it showing me? The version corrected with the
    profile?
     
    Alan Smithee, Sep 26, 2005
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  5. Alan Smithee

    Jim Guest

    Since that view is done by the printer driver and not PS, it is hard to say
    what profile they are using.
    Jim
     
    Jim, Sep 26, 2005
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  6. No, it is not color managed as far as I know, so it's probably your
    image when you would use 'assign to profile' and assign your monitor
    profile. It means nothing in terms of color. It's just meant for
    positioning the image on the paper, that's all.
     
    Johan W. Elzenga, Sep 26, 2005
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  7. It's not done by the printer driver, that dialog is done by Photoshop.
     
    Johan W. Elzenga, Sep 26, 2005
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    par Guest

    Virtually everything I print on either my HP ink jet or my HP color
    laser is darker than it appears on the screen.
    Is there something that I should be changing in Photoshop?

    Phil
     
    par, Sep 28, 2005
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  9. If you don't tell us what your present print settings are, we can't
    suggest what you should change...
     
    Johan W. Elzenga, Sep 28, 2005
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  10. Alan Smithee

    Alan Smithee Guest

    John, for my own peace of mind, could you post your settings and workflow
    for printing scans or camera images from photoshop to an inkjet? Maybe
    there's something I'm just overlooking. I'm assuming you're using CS or CS2.
    Thx.
     
    Alan Smithee, Sep 28, 2005
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  11. Alan Smithee

    Alan Smithee Guest

    Start by getting a color puck for your monitor. This allows you to
    "characterize" your monitor and build a profile which photoshop uses when
    displaying the file. Currently, the Gretag MacBeth Eye Ones are going for
    cheap (Gretag now has the Eye Two). The $80 to $100 you spend will be paid
    back in wasted ink and paper ten fold.
     
    Alan Smithee, Sep 29, 2005
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  12. Normal settings are to use Photoshop color management and turn off color
    management in the printer driver. In practise this means that you use
    'Let Photoshop Determine Colors' in PS CS2 'Print with Preview' and
    select the printer/paper profile there. Use 'Perceptual' or 'Relative
    Colorimetric' as rendering intent. In the printer driver, turn off color
    management (it depends on the printer how you do this. For Epson
    printers you choose 'No Color Adjustment', for other printers it will be
    similar but the words may be different)).

    Also be aware of the following: Many people think that your prints
    should now look like what you see on screen. That is not correct. If you
    want to see what the print will look like, you should use Photoshop's
    'Soft Proof' and set the same profile in the proof setup. Only THEN
    (i.e. if 'Proof Colors' is activated) your print and your monitor should
    match rteasonably well (an exact match is impossible because a monitor
    is an RGB device and a printer is a CMYK device).
     
    Johan W. Elzenga, Sep 29, 2005
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  13. Alan Smithee

    Alan Smithee Guest

    Normal settings are to use Photoshop color management and turn off
    Thx. This is exactly what I do. The weird thing I'm finding is that after
    printing I compare the print to "different" soft proofs -- the one that
    matches the closest is "MonitorRGB" !! Typically my physical print looks a
    little on the "green" side compared to what I'm seeing WITHOUT soft proofing
    turned on. Also interesting is that "MonitorRGB" seems to almost exact match
    what the PRINT PREVIEW image window shows me!! Huh! My solution is to use
    Monitor RGB to warm up my final print a bit and then save as a different
    version. Crazy.
     
    Alan Smithee, Sep 30, 2005
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