Printed copy doesn't look like what's on screen

Discussion in 'Photoshop Tutorials' started by peter, Jan 19, 2006.

  1. peter

    peter Guest

    I guess this is probably a common problem. I have a photo that looks
    beautiful on my screen and lousy on the printer. It is a high quality
    printer. I am actually making these photos for a brochure, but it
    won't be printed using this printer. I'm not sure what to do. I guess
    I could alter the image, perhaps through trial and error, so it looks
    good on the printer and lousy on the screen. But I don't know if that
    makes any sense since we are using an outside printing company to print
    the brochures. I realize I could go trial and error with the printing
    company's printer, but I am wondering what else I can do. There are a
    lot of shots and there would probably be several back and forths for
    each shot. Is there a question I can ask the printing company, or a
    color profile I can get from them, so I don't have to view each tweaked
    version of each shot that their printer prints?


    Thanks,

    Peter
     
    peter, Jan 19, 2006
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    Tesco News Guest

    Hi.

    You probably could get an ICC Profile from your Printers.

    But, if you are not currently running a Colour Managed workflow, (you never
    mentioned C.M.), it won't be lot of use to you.

    You do not seem to know if your Monitor is showing accurate Colours, so a
    profile for a Printing Service is not going to solve that Problem.

    Even if you do manage to get your own Printer to match your Monitor. If
    your Monitor is inaccurate, then your Image will Look wrong and Print wrong
    in a correctly Calibrated system.

    You really need to ensure your Monitor has been Calibrated, and is showing
    the Colours and Density correctly.

    It seems to be rather too late to try and learn about Colour Management, at
    the start of a big task.

    I would suggest you pass the work on to someone who has a fully calibrated
    system, while you start reading up on CM, or delay the Project until you
    have an effective Colour Managed workflow.

    Have a look at the Ps Help Files, or go to www.digital-darkroom.com, and try
    to follow their "Basic Printing" workflow, (designed for Epson Printers,
    but can be adapted for any make).

    Roy G
     
    Tesco News, Jan 19, 2006
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    tg Guest


    I can't seem to get the above website to work. Is it still active?
     
    tg, Jan 19, 2006
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  4. peter

    Mike Russell Guest

    This is Ian Lyon's page.
    It's been changed to www.computer-darkroom.com
     
    Mike Russell, Jan 19, 2006
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  5. peter

    Tesco News Guest

    Sorry about that. Comes from not bothering to look it up, and just doing it
    from memory.

    It is www.computer-darkroom.com

    Roy G
     
    Tesco News, Jan 19, 2006
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  6. peter

    peter Guest

    That look like a very helpful website.

    Thanks!

    Peter
     
    peter, Jan 19, 2006
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  7. peter

    peter Guest

    Oh ok, CJ, that's good to know.

    Thanks!

    Peter
     
    peter, Jan 20, 2006
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    C J Southern Guest

    All good advice - one thing you might like to check first though is that the
    type of paper in your printer matches the type of paper that you've told the
    printer you're using. Monitor calibration is important, but my experience
    suggests that if, for example, you tell your printer you're using hi-gloss
    photo paper when you're actually using plain photocopy paper then you'll get
    a far bigger deviation from what you intended (more than likely a big soggy
    mess) - and vice-versa.

    Try printing on photopaper with the correct settings first.
     
    C J Southern, Jan 20, 2006
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    tomtom Guest

    Another tip is to ensure you are printing on the right side of the
    paper - if you are using a matt paper both sides look similar but
    normally only one side is printable. Touch the paper lightly to your
    tongue - one side will feel sticky, the other not. The sticky side is
    the printable side.

    Also - what CJ Southern says about the paper settings is correct, but
    the settings in the printer driver normally only apply to paper
    supplied by the printer manufacturer - e.g,. Epson papers for Epson
    printers. If you use another make of paper, to get the best results you
    need a profile for the paper. I have had some awful results on some
    papers - the paper makes quite a difference.

    So before going any further I would suggest you ensure you are using
    paper from the printer manufacturer and use the right settings. If your
    printer uses pigment inks it may not print on gloss paper.
     
    tomtom, Jan 20, 2006
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  10. peter

    peter Guest

    Ok, Tom, I didn't realize paper was so important.

    Thanks!

    Peter
     
    peter, Jan 21, 2006
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    liz.barnard Guest

     
    liz.barnard, Jan 21, 2006
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    liz.barnard Guest

    Peter, I have the same problem but it seems to be due to changing my
    monitor to an LCD screen. I have both a PC and a MAC and have the same
    problem with both, even tho' the Mac has been professionally
    calibrated. I waste so much expensive ink trying to get what I want.

    An easy, cheap solution would be to go back to a clunky old-style
    monitor which gives a much more accurate rendering of what's going come
    out of the printer. Daft isn't it? progress is meant to forward not
    back!
     
    liz.barnard, Jan 21, 2006
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    KatWoman Guest


    Well LCD may be progress in terms of desk real estate and weight but it is
    definitely NOT an improvement in viewing. LCD have hideous colors, very
    cartoonish and can't view from the side at all.
    Real progress would give us a CRT display in a laptop! (I wish)
     
    KatWoman, Jan 21, 2006
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  14. peter

    peter Guest

    Wow, that never occurred to me. I'll have to look into that.

    Thanks!

    Peter
     
    peter, Jan 22, 2006
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    Clyde Guest

    There are a few that give good color, can be viewed from angles, and can
    be calibrated. They cost a bundle, but you can get them. For example,
    Apple's LCD larger monitors will do this. I'd certainly like those big
    wide-screen monitor on my Windows computer, but I can't afford that.

    Clyde
     
    Clyde, Jan 22, 2006
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