Prints From Slides -- HELP

Discussion in 'Photography' started by tony, Jul 28, 2003.

  1. tony

    tony Guest

    just had my first batch of slides developed
    (Fuji Velvia) and they all look MAGNIFICENT.

    so off i went to the photolab to have a few
    prints made. waited a (long) week for them to
    scan and (digitally) print. picked them up
    today and i am very letdown.

    all the shadow detail is gone!
    WHY??
    the prints, overall, look very good.
    they dont look under/overexposed. great color.
    better, probably than i've ever gotten from regular
    print film.

    but wheni compare the print to the slide it was made from,
    most if not all of the detail in the shadows is gone.

    the slides, under magnification, are breathtaking.
    the prints, however, look terrible by comparison.

    is this normal? or did my photolab print them too dark?
    and if they were to print for the shadow detail, would my
    highlights wash out?

    any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

    thanks in advance,
    -tony
     
    tony, Jul 28, 2003
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    Brian Guest

    I had the same problem, got 1 hand printed and it was excellent, got the
    same slide digitally printed and you would think they were two different
    photos.
    Digital printing is crap, get them hand printed , will cost a lot more
    unfortunatley, but your prints will be excellent and a truer representation
    of the original slide
     
    Brian, Jul 28, 2003
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    J C Guest

    Don't be too disappointed. I've had the same lab (in NYC) print the
    same image on several different occasions.

    Each print looks different. Some are great. Some are garbage.

    Even when I hand them a print and say "match this" -- it just doesn't
    work.

    Guess that's why I built my own darkroom.


    -- JC
     
    J C, Aug 2, 2003
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    Keith Guest

    Hi Tony, I get digitals done off slides all the time and it works
    well. A scan can't hold as much info as a piece of Velvia so it won't
    look as breathtaking as the tranny but should still look good and
    saleable. one trick here is to try to keep the light contrasts in the
    shot within 4 f stops if you can, grey filters can help for outside,
    fill lighting for studio. Then experiment with labs to find one who
    can be bothered and who knows how to provide a good origional scan. If
    you're serious, always get it saved as a Tiff, not a JPEG, (you can
    convert later if necessary for web work etc) Then I always get the
    piks put on CD then work on them to clean up and adjust contrasts,
    crop etc in Photoshop before sending them back to the lab, a different
    one if necessary, for the final print. So a computer is a great help
    if you have one! In Photoshop you can use various brushes, history
    brush for example to alter, brighten/darken only certain parts of the
    pic so that you shouldn't blow out hightlights or damage parts of the
    pic as long as the origional scan is good. It will take patience,
    practice and working/discussion with an appropriate lab to get the
    best results, but it will be possible. I shoot commercial piks of
    people, often making prints as described above from Provia F and
    believe it or not, my best scans are coming from a Frontier system at
    a lotto shop! So keep trying. Keith from NZ
     
    Keith, Aug 2, 2003
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