Prinzflex glassware

Discussion in 'UK Photography' started by Richard Polhill, Oct 12, 2006.

  1. I have an old Prinzflex 200mm lens for Pentax PK. Whilst I need to run a
    film through the camera using it, I'm wondering if anyone has any
    experience or knowledge of Prinzflex glassware?

    Are russian lenses always worthy of more than their prices reflect? Is
    Prinzflex any good, or just cheap?

    Cheers,

    Rich
     
    Richard Polhill, Oct 12, 2006
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    Mark Dunn Guest

    Perfectly decent, just not as good as the Western equivalent. I managed with
    Russian glass on my Zenith for years.
    The Zenith-E was even marketed as the Prinzflex 500E for a while, presumably
    to make it appear more German.
    It won't be as well coated, so you can allow for that.
     
    Mark Dunn, Oct 12, 2006
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    if Guest

    Wasn't Prinzflex the Dixons own brand name 35mm SLR system?



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    if, Oct 13, 2006
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    Mark Dunn Guest

    That's the one. It was a Zenith-E with a Prinzflex badge.
     
    Mark Dunn, Oct 13, 2006
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    Geoff Berrow Guest

    <wistful> Ah, the Zenith E! My first real camera. I still remember the
    heft of it.</wistful>
     
    Geoff Berrow, Oct 13, 2006
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    Mark Dunn Guest

    Mine did me for 10 years ut I haven't used it for 20. Well, would you? Bit
    of a tank.
     
    Mark Dunn, Oct 13, 2006
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    Geoff Berrow Guest

    No I wouldn't. But I'm even more wistful after my black OM1
     
    Geoff Berrow, Oct 13, 2006
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    if Guest

    I started with a Zenith B and hated it. The Industar lens suffered very
    badly from flare - into the light shots looked like they were taken through
    thick fog - and the camera was not only heavy but limited to 1/30 - 1/500
    shutter speed + B. I was very glad to move into a Fujica ST605 which was
    small and light and had TTL metering.

    One of the things that disappoints me about the modern digital SLRs is that
    little seems to have been done to cut down size and weight - after the OM1
    there was a trend for small SLRs for years and then sizes began to creep up
    again to Zenith sizes, and digital seems to have done nothing to combat
    this despite using a sensor that is more like APS than 35mm in size.

    This is why I'm currently looking for a decent digital compact, the
    sticking point is finding something good with a wideangle lens for my style
    of pictorial photography. All the compacts seem to use 10 or 14mm sensors
    which suffer significantly from noise, and the only wideangle compacts I
    can find are Kodak Easyshare (23mm), Ricoh GR (28mm with 21mm converter)
    and Panasonic FX10 (28mm), all of which have different shortcomings.
     
    if, Oct 13, 2006
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    Mark Dunn Guest

    I think part of the problem was quality control. My Industar was quite
    reasonable for flare. Perhaps yours was a Monday morning job. Mind you, mine
    had a shutter fault from the off and spent 7 weeks at TOE being fixed.
    As for the size of DSLRs- help! It's a major disincentive. Why, with battery
    improvements over the last 15 years, they need to be any bigger than an F4 I
    don't know.
     
    Mark Dunn, Oct 14, 2006
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    Hugh Spence Guest

    Prinzflex was a Dixon's brand name and I don't think it was limited to
    soviet imports.
    They may have had japanese (Chinon) imports under that name as well.
     
    Hugh Spence, Oct 15, 2006
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  11. Hi.

    From what I remember of test reports in photo mags of the 1970s, the usual
    comment about Prinzflex and Edixa / Dixons equipment was usually "reasonable
    equipment for the price but a pity about the service backup". Edixa had a
    goodish reputation outside the UK if I remember reviews correctly.

    Regards, Ian.
     
    Fred Anonymous, Oct 19, 2006
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  12. Yes, almost right. I wrote the Photo Technique review of the Chinon
    CE-5, and said what a great camera it was, but what a pity it was only
    sold by Dixons.

    Dixons sued and got £2000, since it is a libel to imply a negative
    association of this type (court precedent proven, no chance of defence).

    Edixa/Prinzflex etc were also sold under many other names. They were
    generic lenses from the same factory which supplied Photax (Paragon
    label), Porst in Germany, and many other minor or house brand names.

    They were mainly very poor, especially the wide-angles. The teles were
    more reliable, but still had low contrast, low resolution, inadequate
    coating, and a long list of minus points. Occasionally you got a good
    one like the 23mm f3.5 Prinzflex wide-angle I once owned, and really
    quite liked.

    David
     
    David Kilpatrick, Oct 19, 2006
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    Mark Dunn Guest

    I've still got my Photax 135, a touch barrely but serviceable in its day.
    Come to think of it, I've still got my whole Zenith kit. Not much call for
    it nowadays, or for the A1. (sigh).
     
    Mark Dunn, Oct 20, 2006
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  14. You have an A1? What FD accessories do you have? What do you intend to do
    with it?

    Also, what Zenith equipment do you have? Any nice M42 wide angle lenses?
     
    Richard Polhill, Oct 20, 2006
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    Duncan Guest

    I used to like the Zenith screen being a plain matt glass. So easy to focus
    and a delight to use when I had one that I used with Pentax lenses!

    Lomo seem to have taken these over now.

    Duncan
     
    Duncan, Oct 20, 2006
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    Mark Dunn Guest

    I'm planning to hang on to the A1 unless I get a silly offer. 50/1.8,
    Vivitar 135/2.8 and 2x converter, unspecified Japanese or Korean 28/2.8,
    power winder.
    Sorry, just the Zenith, 50 and 58mm, Photax 135 and a 2x converter and
    extension tubes.
     
    Mark Dunn, Oct 20, 2006
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