Pro film vs consumer film vs grain vs scanner

Discussion in 'Scanners' started by Barney, Aug 16, 2005.

  1. Barney

    Barney Guest

    Recently, I used non pro film (4 pack of Kodak 100 speed negative film)
    cheap one hour processing at Wallgreens...no prints, just CDs. The look
    of the film on the CD turned out kind of grainy looking even though I
    used only 100 speed film. I have read that some scanners (depending on
    the design) have a way of exaggerating the grain...so it could have been
    the scanning equipment from the one hour lab. Regular consumer film also
    has a higher contrast than say a nice portrait low contrast professional
    film. Consumers usually like contrasty films because it helps gives
    their one hour prints a snappy look (helps the colors pop out.)

    I never had that problem with the professional B&W
    film/processing/scanning I've been using at a local pro lab. I've also
    had excellent results using professional 100 speed color slide film
    developed and scanned through the same pro lab. The results was ultra
    clear, sharp and life like.

    My goal is to see if I can get that same nice look using some kind of
    negative film. I'm going to try again using professional low contrast
    film, pro processing/scanning to see what the differences are.

    Mainly, I wanted to try using negative film (as opposed to slide film)
    due to it's greater exposer latitude. If I can't get that same look
    using a good pro negative film, maybe I should go back to using pro slide
    film.


    Any thoughts? Thanks!


    Barney
     
    Barney, Aug 16, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    CD's I've gotten from even "good labs" from pro film have been not great
    to very disappointing. Nothing like your own scanner.
    Portra 160 NC scans very nice. Low grain. EI it at 100, dev. normally.

    Velvia 50 / 100F, Kodak 100GX all scan nicely IME.

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, Aug 16, 2005
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  3. Barney

    kz8rt3 Guest

    The problem was "cheap one hour processing at Wallgreens".

    Next time get prints with the CD and you'll probably see the difference.
    There is a chance they screwed up the developing.

    100 Kodak should show no grain unless you under exposed in. Those 1 hour
    places develop each shot to a middle gray. And that will make the photos
    look grainy.

    Check your camera battery also.
     
    kz8rt3, Aug 16, 2005
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    Mr.Happy Guest

    the problem with getting CDs at labs is that they burn thru 100 CDs an
    hour
    and dont give a damn about quality. All the photos I got on CDs were
    1000x1500 (not base16 3000x2000 as someone had suggested).
    I dont know if labs will charge more for base16.
     
    Mr.Happy, Aug 19, 2005
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    Eric Guest

    I get my 35mm C-41 stuff (Kodak 100UC & 400UC, Ilford XP2) developed at
    the Long's Drug around the corner instead of the pro lab. Same machine
    as the pro lab, but a sh*t-hot girl working & maintaining it. The pro
    lab has a hot girl, who is good, but Long's seems to keep their machine
    a little cleaner and the chems fresher... and they're about $4~5
    cheaper, do 1 hr, and only 5 minutes away. I always use the 1hr
    developing. I'm impatient. I get my E-6 stuff (all 120) done at a
    place that does 2 hr developing.
     
    Eric, Aug 21, 2005
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