problem editing dvd

Discussion in 'Video Cameras' started by Laurence Payne, May 2, 2006.

  1. A video DVD has three VOB files. It plays faultlessly in a DVD player
    program. I need to edit it. It imports OK into Vegas, but as three
    segments. However carefully I align, there is a video and audio
    dropout at the joins.

    I have tried rendering to a single avi using AutoGK. Video/Audio
    synch is lost. This matters - it's a recording of a musical
    performance.

    Any better ideas?
     
    Laurence Payne, May 2, 2006
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  2. Laurence Payne

    G Hardy Guest

    Have you tried ripping it to a single VOB file using DVD Decryptor?

    Better still, use the above to rip it to a M2V file, then use BeSweet to
    convert the AC3 (if present) to WAV.
     
    G Hardy, May 2, 2006
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    Tony Morgan Guest

    You can have any number of VOB files on a DVD (at least two though).
    Have you tried pressing F8 before each join?
    This might be a silly question, but why render to an AVI? Then of course
    the question - what kind of AVI?
    If you're still in Vegas, why not select all audio, then use the
    arrow/CTRL+arrow to sync?
     
    Tony Morgan, May 2, 2006
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    Mike Scott Guest

    Which apparently was hosted on afterdawn.com, along with other dvd
    ripping software; and afterdawn have had to virtually shut down after a
    change in Finnish copyright law. In any case, it seems dvd decryptor has
    been bought by macrovision.........

    :-(
     
    Mike Scott, May 2, 2006
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  5. Laurence Payne

    G Hardy Guest

    http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/DVD_Decrypter/1011845169/1

    I got the feeling the OP is trying to edit one of his own DVDs, so I don't
    think the copyright issue is relevant to him.
     
    G Hardy, May 2, 2006
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  6. A video DVD has three VOB files.
    Indeed. But THIS one has three. Four, in fact, if you count the
    index.

    Yup. It's not an alignment problem. There's an actual, visible
    drop-out at the end of each segment.
    Because there IS seamless program available. I can play it. It's
    just when imported into an editor as three VOB files I get these
    dropouts. I thought I'd try importing it in a different form.
    The rendering lost synch. As far as Vegas is concerned, it's in synch.


    Tony - you seem to be reading my post sentence by sentence and trying
    to knock down each one in turn! Do you understand the problem I'm
    describing? Have you experienced it? I need ideas, not correction
    :)
     
    Laurence Payne, May 2, 2006
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  7. OK. So how WOULD you import video that had been delivered on a video
    DVD?
     
    Laurence Payne, May 3, 2006
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  8. OK. So how WOULD you import video that had been delivered on a video
    Now, would I be jumping through all these hoops if there was another
    format available? D'oh!

    .....yeah, I know. But "however" doesn't help. The problem exists. I
    shall tell the client what a fool he was for only having a DVD. Then I
    shall try to solve the problem. Which, in case you've all forgotten
    is:

    A video DVD plays perfectly. But I need to edit the content. I
    import it to Vegas, it comes in as 3 segments, one for each VOB. When
    placed in the timeline there is video and audio drop-out at the
    (properly aligned) joins. In fact, you can see the audio track "die"
    at the very end of each segment. What's happening, and how can I get
    a clean transfer off the DVD?
     
    Laurence Payne, May 3, 2006
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    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    Have you tried making a DV recording of the DVD (player) playout [1],
    in other words making a dubbed copy onto a format that you know will
    import OK, not the best approach but it might get you around the
    problem without to great a 'generational loss'?

    [1] or direct AV capture if you have a analogue capture card.
     
    :::Jerry::::, May 3, 2006
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    Andy Guest

    Does it have to be Vegas? How I do this is as follows:

    1.Demux the VOBs using PVAStrumento or ProjectX
    2.Edit the video with Cutterman
    3.Create a DVD ISO with ISOEdit

    It sounds complicated but it isn't really and all the tools are available
    for free.

    An alternative would be to use DVDShrink to edit the VOBS, although this
    would result in different titles for each segment.

    Good luck.

    Andy.
     
    Andy, May 3, 2006
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    Mark A Guest

    I'd use TMPGen DVD Author Pro. It will import any DVD stuff you want
    and then allow you to edit at frame level without loss. The only caveat
    being it won't work properly with anything but Win2000 or XP

    Regards

    Mark
     
    Mark A, May 3, 2006
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  12. I'm currently pumping video out of a set-top box through a Canopus
    ADVC100 into the computer. Fingers crossed for the quality! :)

    Every direct-conversion method I've tried either loses audio synch or
    has the glitches. Do all imported VOBs have this problem, or just
    these ones? I'll try later.

    The reason for the job is that whoever rendered and burnt the original
    DVD managed to get the audio tracks out of phase. Fine on a stereo
    TV - even gives that "enhanced" effect beloved of cheap hi-fi :) But
    there are still quite a few mono TVs around, apparently. Anyway, the
    client found enough to complain about. Took me a little time to suss
    the problem.
     
    Laurence Payne, May 3, 2006
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  13. Arrrrgh! Rubbish recorded at the top of the screen. Client won't
    accept that.
     
    Laurence Payne, May 4, 2006
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  14. Laurence Payne

    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    Have you a tried routing the signal through a TBC?
     
    :::Jerry::::, May 4, 2006
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  15. Not something I have lying around, unfortunately :)
     
    Laurence Payne, May 4, 2006
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  16. Laurence Payne

    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    For an extra 150 quid, of so, you could have had one built into the
    ADVC unit...

    Grins, ducks and grabs coat while running for the door! :~)
     
    :::Jerry::::, May 4, 2006
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  17. Laurence Payne

    G Hardy Guest

    Did you miss my response about DVD Decryptor? OK so I know your disc isn't
    encrypted, but the program will demux to (single-file) M2v and AC3/WAV/MPA
    streams
     
    G Hardy, May 4, 2006
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  18. Sorry not to reply. Yes, I tried Decryptor. But audio synch didn't
    survive the conversion.
     
    Laurence Payne, May 5, 2006
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  19. Laurence Payne

    Dave R Guest

    This has to be the most absurb suggestion I've seen on here for a long
    time. That would result in nearly 5.5GB of data being posted and
    propogated through to thousands of servers worldwide. Terrabytes of data
    bouncing around the world. What a woefully selfish action that would be.

    Presumably most readers would have more common sense.
     
    Dave R, May 5, 2006
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    G Hardy Guest

    Sorry to hear that. I occasionally have to revisit DVDs ("Can you edit this
    bit out - mum says our widescreen TV makes her bum look big.") and don't
    have a problem with audio synch.
     
    G Hardy, May 5, 2006
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