Problem - Minolta X-700 stopped down when advancing frame

Discussion in 'Minolta' started by Zero2K000, Dec 17, 2004.

  1. Zero2K000

    Zero2K000 Guest

    Hi,

    I just bought the X-700 from eBay and there seems to be some sort of
    mechanical problem and I'd like to know if this is indeed a problem or
    not (I have a feeling it is because no other camera I have acts like
    this). Basically whenever I advance the frame with the lever, it sets
    the diaphragm pin to stop the lens down, regardless of what mode I'm
    in. So I have to do all the metering and composition before advancing
    the frame since the viewfinder gets darkened from this. Is this natural
    behaviour or do I have a bodged up camera? The shutter timing seems to
    work fine, so too with other functionality (self-timer, AE lock, ISO
    settings...).

    BTW, I noticed something funny. If I push the Depth-of-field preview
    button whilst advancing the frame, the lens won't stop down at all,
    even when the shutter is pressed. Also happens sometimes when I push
    the DOF preview button a few times "before" advancing the frame.

    I do see that someone has tampered with certain components of the
    camera as the piece of black plastic mask around the lens mount of the
    camera is no longer glued in and has a bad scathing to it - probably
    trying to get at the focussing screen.

    Any help would be great, and any possibility of getting it fixed/tuned
    somehow would be ideal.

    Thanks
    Leon
     
    Zero2K000, Dec 17, 2004
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  2. Zero2K000

    PGG Guest

    This definitely is _not_ normal behavior. If the auction didn't say "AS
    IS", demand a refund.
     
    PGG, Dec 17, 2004
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  3. It's broken. A repair on this item would not be cost effective. As
    stated by another poster, return it for a refund
     
    Scott Schuckert, Dec 17, 2004
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  4. Zero2K000

    Zero2K000 Guest

    Ah shucks... thanks guys. It's AS IS. I got it for $100 as a kit with a
    50/1.7 lens, but unfortunately it's an AS IS item - the bastard. So I
    guess I'll have to keep it for parts and get another one elsewhere.
     
    Zero2K000, Dec 17, 2004
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  5. Zero2K000

    PGG Guest

    If you have a local camera repair shop, get it estimated. If the repair
    cost is less than $100, then why roll the dice with eBay again?
     
    PGG, Dec 18, 2004
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  6. Moron! Why the **** would you buy such a piece of shit?
     
    uraniumcommittee, Dec 18, 2004
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  7. Zero2K000

    PGG Guest

    Because it is a nice camera.
     
    PGG, Dec 18, 2004
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  8. Indeed it was, even if I prefer the slightly older XD-7/11. There were
    a LOT of nice competant mid-level cameras at the time; not everyone had
    (or has) to shoot with high-priced "pro" gear.
     
    Scott Schuckert, Dec 18, 2004
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  9. Zero2K000

    PGG Guest

    Still is a nice camera, not was. I also have a somewhat modern Canon EOS
    Elan II, but I prefer the X-700.
     
    PGG, Dec 18, 2004
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  10. Zero2K000

    Alan Browne Guest

    Mikey is best ignored. He's unable to discuss anything rationally.
     
    Alan Browne, Dec 18, 2004
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  11. Zero2K000

    Zero2K000 Guest

    Yeh, I'm getting a quote on it after the weekend. But most of them here
    will say "show me the camera" to give any information. Just wanted a
    manual camera to play around with during Christmas break thats all; I
    already have 2 DSLRs and a few digital cameras but was missing the use
    of an all manual film camera so decided to get an X-700 because of
    having pass history with Minolta and loving its bokeh vs the others.
    The digitals were getting a bit "boring" having to sit in front of the
    PC to fine-tune the files.

    Thanks,
    Leon
     
    Zero2K000, Dec 18, 2004
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  12. You deserve it if you think that.
     
    uraniumcommittee, Dec 19, 2004
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  13. I have 4 of the X-700's and ive never come across this situation. Good
    luck w/ getting it fixed. Once its fixed you'll love spending rolls w/
    it! I love mine -- they have many miles on them and have had many rolls
    thru them!


    Terry
    ==========================================
    Leon Wrote:

    Hi,
    I just bought the X-700 from eBay and there seems to be some sort of
    mechanical problem and I'd like to know if this is indeed a problem or
    not (I have a feeling it is because no other camera I have acts like
    this). Basically whenever I advance the frame with the lever, it sets
    the diaphragm pin to stop the lens down, regardless of what mode I'm in.
    So I have to do all the metering and composition before advancing the
    frame since the viewfinder gets darkened from this. Is this natural
    behaviour or do I have a bodged up camera? The shutter timing seems to
    work fine, so too with other functionality (self-timer, AE lock, ISO
    settings...).
    BTW, I noticed something funny. If I push the Depth-of-field preview
    button whilst advancing the frame, the lens won't stop down at all, even
    when the shutter is pressed. Also happens sometimes when I push the DOF
    preview button a few times "before" advancing the frame.
    I do see that someone has tampered with certain components of the camera
    as the piece of black plastic mask around the lens mount of the camera
    is no longer glued in and has a bad scathing to it - probably trying to
    get at the focussing screen.
    Any help would be great, and any possibility of getting it fixed/tuned
    somehow would be ideal.
    Thanks
    Leon
     
    B a H u m b u g, Dec 19, 2004
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  14. Zero2K000

    PGG Guest

    Hey uranium ass committee, What do you think of the Leica R3 camera body?
    Did you know it is based off of a Minolta?

    Or how about the Leica 24mm f2.8 prime lens from the 80s? Yup...a Minolta
    lens.

    If all of Minolta is trash, then so is some of Leica.
     
    PGG, Dec 19, 2004
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  15. The R3 used some components of the Minolta XE-7, but a lot of it was
    their own. In no way are the cameras identical.

    Actually, Leitz brought three lenses over from Minolta:

    24mm 2,8 (still made by Leica, but with a different formula)
    16mm 2,8 (no longer offered)
    80-200/75-200/70-210 zooms (no longer offered)

    These lenses were made to Leitz standards, and were better than the
    same ones marketed by Minolta. Rejection rate was quite high.

    Leitz wanted to add to their lens line but did not have the resources
    to develop so many lenses so quickly. All of these lenses except the
    revised 24mm have been replaced by Leica designs.
     
    uraniumcommittee, Dec 19, 2004
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  16. uraniumcommittee, Dec 19, 2004
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  17. Zero2K000

    PGG Guest

    The R4 is based on the XD-11 too. From my understanding, the only
    differences is the lens mount and metering electronics. The shutters and
    mechanics are the same.
    You have no numbers on what the rejection rate was. I heard it was quite
    low.
    And they turned to Minolta rather than Nikon, Canon, or Pentax.

    You know what? My Minolta X-700 along with an assortment of 5 prime
    lenses (including the 24mm f2.8) cost me less than $800. Now for somebody
    who isn't rich and is young, tell me, is getting the equivalent Leica
    setup with the $8000 or whatever it would cost?
     
    PGG, Dec 19, 2004
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  18. Zero2K000

    PGG Guest

    PGG, Dec 19, 2004
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  19. "And they turned to Minolta rather than Nikon, Canon, or Pentax. "

    Why? Probably because Minolta lenses rotate the same way on the focus
    and aperture.

    Here's a Rokkor:
    http://flock.org/cameras/images/146 Rokkor-X 28mm f2.8 side.JPG

    Here's a Nikkor:
    http://www.nikon.co.jp/main/eng/society/nikkor/n02_e.htm

    Here's a Takumar:
    http://flock.org/cameras/images/555 Takumar 1.4 50mm Side 1.JPG

    and another:
    http://pcmag.shopping.com/xPF-Pentax_50mm_f_2_0_SMCP_A_Standard_Lens

    Pentax and Nikon work the opposite way.

    I believe this simplifies bringing the lenses from one system to
    another.

    For Nikkors and Takumars, infinity is all the way to the left. For
    Leica, all the way to the right.
    I think Canon works the same way as Leica too.
     
    uraniumcommittee, Dec 19, 2004
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  20. Zero2K000

    PGG Guest

    Let me ask you this: do Nikon, Canon, and Minolta lenses and cameras suck?
     
    PGG, Dec 20, 2004
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