PS CC update

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Savageduck, Jan 16, 2014.

  1. Savageduck

    PeterN Guest

    Leading ne to wonder how much attention you pay to the facts, before
    PeterN, Jan 21, 2014
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  2. Savageduck

    Sandman Guest

    What original comment, Peter? The one where I said I had waited for the
    fatures announced in this thread? It was very much factual.
    That's your job, isn't it? I mean, this post from yours is a good example.
    No content, no point.
    Best endorsement I could ever get.
    Sandman, Jan 21, 2014
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  3. Savageduck

    Sandman Guest

    What facts, Peter? This is the supposed "spouting" I did:

    Re: PS CC update
    01/17/2014 <>

    "That's some really neat features. I've been waiting for them
    to include the Shaky blur reduction thing, and having Camera
    Raw as a filter, nice!"

    This was in response to a post by Savageduck that contained a link to the
    Adobe blog, posted on january 15th, that talked about new features in
    Photoshop. I responded to that in approval of those features, just to learn
    that apparently all of them weren't as new as the facts made them appear
    (i.e. the date on the blog).

    And thus we have Peter the troll. Trying to make it seem I have "spouted"
    something that he wants to claim wasn't based on the facts evident in the
    thread. He was even stupid enough to make this idiotic claim:

    Re: PS CC update
    01/19/2014 <>

    "The features were hard to miss, if you actually used the

    Without, you know, actually explaining just HOW they were supposedly "hard
    to miss" when using the program. There is no information when launching the
    application that new features were added (like there, ironically, is in
    Adobe Illustrator), but still he wanted to make it seem like it was
    actually *hard* to miss them - by just using the application. Another lie
    from Peter, as usual.

    Full circle, now run away little boy.
    Sandman, Jan 21, 2014
  4. Savageduck

    PeterN Guest

    You got caught, and am embarrassed. Oh Poor Jonas, can't wiggle out from
    his bullshit. Of course he calls me a troll for pointing that the newly
    discovered features would have been obvious to anyone who actually used
    CC on a daily basis, as claimed. Now that you got caught in a red handed
    lie, you try to crawl out. Poor Jonas. Crawl back under your bridge in
    the Western Baltic.
    PeterN, Jan 21, 2014
  5. Savageduck

    PeterN Guest

    Is a facture a Swedish broken bone?

    I guess you took over my job.
    PeterN, Jan 21, 2014
  6. Savageduck

    Noons Guest

    Is there ONE post about photography in these crap newsgroups that does
    not end in trolling and insulting off-topic remarks?

    Fuckin GROW UP, you band of TWERPS!!!!!!

    Or else stay home and watch tv, like all the other stoopid in your joke
    of a country!

    Nuff is nuff!!!!!
    Noons, Jan 21, 2014
  7. Savageduck

    Sandman Guest

    Wtf? About what? That I didn't know about these features? Why would that
    embarass me? While you may have your self esteem tied to knwoing about
    features in software applications, I do not. I was pleasantly surprised to
    find out that they existed and my "embarassement" musy have been me gladly
    admitting to having missed them as such:

    "Which I, obviously, have missed. Or rather, that's how I
    found out about them - here in this thread."

    Yeah, I sure sound embarrassed there, Peter. The shame, the shame!
    Haha, what supposed "bullshit" is that, Peter? You're just here to make as
    many ad hominem's as possible without actually supporting any of them. You
    keep crying "spouting" and "bullshit" without even quoting anything! You're
    one of the most underachieving trolls I've yet to meet.
    Indeed - since you can't form a coherent post where you actually point out
    HOW they would have been obvious - you're way too busy trolling than
    actually supporting your claims.
    You see, when I call you a liar - I actually point to the actual
    misinformation you have posted, explaining what you lied about. You use it
    when you can't come up with an actual argument. You do it to attack, I do
    it to expose your misinformation and lack of credibility. Trust me - I
    would much prefer it if you weren't a lying troll.

    Here's a challenge for you - in your next post; outline how these features
    are exposed *in the program* in a way where they are *hard to miss*.

    For instance, new features in Illustrator are seen as videos in a splash
    screen when you start the application. That's a great example of new
    features being hard to miss.

    Or... run away as usual. It's not like you have the wits to participate in
    anything resembling a discussion containing arguments and debate.
    Sandman, Jan 21, 2014
  8. Savageduck

    Sandman Guest

    I missed an "e" in the word "features", and Peter - determnined to be the
    biggest troll in the group - obviously thought a spelling flame was the
    only valid response.

    Ironically, he couldn't even succeed in such a simple task as a spelling
    flame, and misspelled the word again, now as "facture". Karma's a bitch.
    Wow, worst comeback ever. Reminds me of this one:

    Sandman, Jan 21, 2014
  9. Savageduck

    PeterN Guest

    Yup. That's a known fact.

    Keep following the troll's book of reason.
    When caught, try to attack the one who catches you.
    And say anything to distract attention from stupid comments.
    PeterN, Jan 21, 2014
  10. Savageduck

    Sandman Guest

    First step is enlightenment, very good Peter. Now you just have to find the
    strength to act like an adult and break this pattern.

    Challenge... failed.
    Sandman, Jan 21, 2014
  11. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    What I fail to understand in this sub-thread argument which resulted
    from me shining a light on the latest PS features; is why Jonas
    upgraded from CS6 to CC if he didn't research what the move to CC would
    give him.
    Personally, I would have been more than happy to stick with PS CS6
    along with an upgrade from LR4 to LR5, until I calculated that the
    $10/month promotional deal was a far better deal than being stuck on
    the Adobe upgrade treadmill. Getting the new features found in PS CC,
    and being able to see what they do, has just been well worth taking
    that step. I did my research and found out about features I would gain
    in the move from CS6. To do that effectively I had to know what I had
    in PS CS6 to start with.

    Also, it has always been worthwhile keeping one's ear to the ground
    when it comes to Photoshop development, especially if there is a
    particular feature on one's wish list. The sources of such information
    start with Adobe and are well supplemented by NAPP and Photoshop User,
    and the various Kelby sites such as and all it has to offer.
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    Savageduck, Jan 21, 2014
  12. Savageduck

    Tony Cooper Guest

    While I normally consider Jonas to be a monumental PIA in this
    newsgroup, who contributes nothing of value, the fact that he has
    overlooked the introduction of some new features is, in my opinion,

    All of us have downloaded and installed some program, somewhere along
    the line, where we are not familiar with all the bells and all the
    whistles of the program. There are probably features in CS6 that date
    back to much earlier versions of PS that I've never got around to

    You tend to notice things when you *need* them. There are, for
    example, people who use advanced versions of PS/CS who have never
    ventured into the LAB mode. They will when they read something about
    the advantages of working in LAB for some particular

    You know Jonas. These posts on this subject will just prompt him to
    deluge us with posts about why it's not his fault. Nothing will be
    learned. It's not in his character to just say "Oh, I missed that"
    and let the subject drop.
    Tony Cooper, Jan 21, 2014
  13. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    Except that some of the features he has wished for and missed, have
    been available since july 2013. It is good that he has finally been
    made aware of their existence.
    Yup! There are plenty of PS CS6/CC features I do not use, but I am
    aware of their existence in the various PS versions. Many times my
    justification for an upgrade has been a new feature I thought I might
    benefit from. Sometimes ignoring an upgrade has been because a new
    feature was one I would never use.
    I have only dabbled with LAB mode to see if it would make a difference
    to my product, and I learned that I can survive without using it.
    I like to know what is in the package I have bought. It is one of the
    reasons I actually read manuals.
    ....but why buy something if you don't know what is in the package?
    Savageduck, Jan 21, 2014
  14. Savageduck

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Don't we all? I purchased an iPhone, but I purchased it for the
    features I knew about and wanted. There are undoubtedly features
    incorporated in the phone that I'm not interested in. There are icons
    representing "features" that I've never opened. It may surprise me
    later to find out I can do something with the phone I don't know about
    now, but I'm not going to carry on about it.
    Tony Cooper, Jan 21, 2014
  15. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    That is certainly an option you and Jonas can employ with anything you buy.

    Perhaps I am a little more obsessive when it comes to knowing the
    features of stuff I buy. I know why I bought my iPhone when I replaced
    my Android phone, and I want to know its potential, and what apps and
    features I might find useful.
    So I have a very good idea of what I can do with it, I try to learn
    what each feature does even though I might not have a specific use for
    a particular feature.
    When it comes to iDevice apps, I research those apps/features which
    support some of things which have stirred my interest. The same is true
    of my iPad. I am inquisitive when it comes to apps for both of devices.
    When it comes to software such as PS and/or LR, I have a considerable
    investment and I am curious as to what its full potential is, and once
    more that includes features I might never use, but I know they exist.

    Then when it comes to major purchases such as my car. I want to know
    each and every feature available to me. With my E350 I want to know how
    the GPS functions, and how to use it even though I am not going to use
    it on a daily basis (I know how to get from my home to the local shops
    and the locations I am familiar with). I want to know how to pair my
    phone to the bluetooth system in my car. I want to know how to make
    various user changes to the car's systems, and I do, even though most
    everything is left with the default settings. I want to know where the
    jack points are on my car, and I do because I have read the manual.
    Savageduck, Jan 21, 2014
  16. Savageduck

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Obsess all you want, but it is really necessary to obsess here?

    I'm quite capable of figuring out what I need to know, or am
    interesting in knowing, when it suits me. I'm sure our Swedish
    Popinjay is equally capable.

    While you may be curious about all those icons, the icon for this
    particular subject should be based on this:
    Tony Cooper, Jan 21, 2014
  17. Savageduck

    Sandman Guest

    Huh? I upgraded when CC was available just because I liked that solution
    for paying for the software. I didn't do it due to some special features
    found only in CC - as far as I remember, there were no feature difference
    between CS6 and CC in the beginning, or rather, no big feature changes.
    Fair enough. I've always used the entire suite (Master Collection) and CC
    just made financial sense.
    True enough. I haven't kept up to date, that's rather obvious. But to be
    fair - I use Photoshop mainly for web design, and it's not until this
    january update (which you posted about in this thread) that there was a
    feature that applied to that workflow. I would have probably missed it had
    you not posted about it though.
    I don't follow any of them. Maybe I should, but I don't. :) I'm fine with
    learning about new features in rate I currently am :)
    Sandman, Jan 21, 2014
  18. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    Apparently not.
    took you 48 minutes to find a photographic metaphor, or did you have it handy?
    Savageduck, Jan 21, 2014
  19. Savageduck

    Sandman Guest

    And here Tony comes, to troll and lie some more. He probably even saw this
    very post and just had to ignore it to attack me:

    Re: PS CC update
    01/20/2014 <>

    "Which I, obviously, have missed. Or rather, that's how I
    found out about them - here in this thread."

    I would have been fine by letting the subject drop there, Tony, but your
    troll buddy Peter wanted to drag on with it, adding lies and more trolling
    to the mix. It's what you guys do - take a simple post and a simple thread
    and turn it into a circus. Here we had me and Savageduck discussing why and
    how it came to be that I missed this information, having just a casual
    conversation where it is quite obvious that I was fortcoming about the fact
    that I had missed the information - not at all claiming it was "not my
    fault", contrary to your lies above.

    But then Peter comes in again, probably drunk or something, and sytarts
    claiming that I was "caught", that I "spouted" (something, I don't know
    what) and that my "bullshit" was exposed.

    He didn't, just like you, actually *support* any of those claims, because -
    haha - you guys don't need to do THAT, you just have to make claims and
    then that's it!
    Sandman, Jan 21, 2014
  20. Savageduck

    Sandman Guest

    It is, indeed.
    I really can't remember any PS features that prompted me to upgrade. I'm
    one of those guys that usually always have the latest version of my main
    applications all the time. Not because I need/want all the new features,
    but because I don't want to find myself one day not having access to a
    feature because I've yet to upgrade. WIth CC, this process has become even
    more fluid so to speak.

    I think layer effects may have been a feature that, when announced, made me
    wait for it to be available so I could upgrade to it. I'm sure there may be
    others, I just can't think of any at the moment.
    The move from CS6 to CC was just for convenience, not because CC contained
    new features.
    Sandman, Jan 21, 2014
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