Punography comments from Calvin Sambrook

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Calvin Sambrook, May 11, 2009.

  1. Well it looks like almost everyone struggled as much as I did with this
    month's mandate!

    PUN-Savageduck_old.jpg: What a fantastic photo. I particularly like the
    reflections off the "water" and the inclusion of the lumps of ice in the
    background which seems to me to give an impression of vast space. So much
    of this photo works well: the shadows, the composition, the colours.

    Pun_Michael Wyllie.jpg: As a photo this is just too visually confusing to
    work well for me. The mottled background having the same colours as the
    dragon and the camera position leaving the head in front of the body like
    that makes my attention jump all over the image without really seeing
    anything much. Sorry.
    I can't think what the pun is either - although that says more about me than
    the photo! Sorry again!

    Pun_Mike_Benveniste.jpg: I quite like this shot as a piece of art in
    itself. The nice crisp subject and the use of two very plain backgrounds
    I cant imagine what the pun is though.

    Punography Calvin Sambrook.jpg: Mine of course and I'm not at all happy.
    The basic concept has sort of worked but I wanted to produce something with
    strong lines down though the legs, arms and rope. Failed. I would have
    liked a more obvious look to the model's clothing. Without giving the pun
    away that is supposed to be a pirate's outfit but I don't think it's worked,
    I think we should have gone for a stereotyped "pirate costume". I'm also
    still not sure about my choice of background. I used this because it was
    sort of neutral while still looking like a street but now I look again it's
    simply too cluttered with tiny detail, I think I'd of been better off with
    someone's fence or something. On the good side I did at least manage to get
    the important bits on thirds which has helped a bit and Anna, my model, has
    sort of managed to look like she's pulling pack against being dragged along.

    Puns-Dont Be A Horses Ass-Cooper.jpg: I think this is probably a good photo
    in its own right but is spoiled by the mandate if you see what I mean.
    Without the symbol it's got nice composition and the shooting angle
    certainly grabs the attention!

    Puns-Horse Of A Different Color-Cooper.jpg: Wonderful. I love this shot.
    The choice of recolour, having the head on the major third and the offset
    framing within the frame all work to draw my eye in and grab my attention.
    Well done.

    Puns-Straight From The Horses Mouth-Cooper.jpg: This did nothing for me I'm
    afraid. The bridle in the top left is distracting as is the diagonal crop
    (what's going on there?). There's just not any visual interest, nothing to
    pull me in.

    pun-Paul-Furman-2008-edgehill.net.jpg: Wow. This would probably of been a
    nothingy, boring snap but the added blur works to really give it punch. I
    like the composition and the sharpness and texture in the bricks (look at
    the original size). Must admit though - I can't look at it for too long as
    it makes me feel ill !
    "Blurring the boundaries" by any chance?

    pun_bowser1.jpg: This is funny on so many levels it's embarrassing! It's
    certainly not a great photo but within the context of this mandate I love

    pun_bowser2.jpg: Doesn't do it for me I'm afraid.

    Clearly it was tough to come up with photographically accomplished shots
    within this mandate, I know I failed. If I've just been nasty about your
    photo I apologise but take a look at mine, it's no better!
    Calvin Sambrook, May 11, 2009
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    tony cooper Guest

    I like this photo
    http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos/523569626_VCfu3-L.jpg , taken at
    the same stable, better. This horse was not as easy to color, though,
    so I whipped one off of the white one. (Not the same white horse as
    the one in the field)
    It's not really a diagonal crop. When I was shooting the white horse
    in the field, another horse had his muzzle under the lowest fence bar
    and was munching grass from the other side. He had his head twisted
    to do so. I couldn't think of a way, pictorially, to convey "the
    grass is greener on the other side", so I noticed the one blade
    sticking almost straight up. I did line it up a little in post. The
    halter, not the bridle, was included to make it clear it was a horse.
    With tighter cropping, I wasn't sure it would be recognizable.
    tony cooper, May 11, 2009
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    M J Wyllie Guest

    Hi Calvin. I had 2 choices of background, the
    brown or some blue. I thought the brown suited the
    dragon better. Also head-on was the only way to
    capture all of the dragon, maybe I should've used
    a different model....

    Anyway, try "Dragging the chain".
    Ok, as soon as you mentioned pirates clothing, I
    got it! :)
    M J Wyllie, May 11, 2009
  4. Thanks for the kind words. Looking at it again, I got lazy on
    the shadows on the easel.
    Does it help to know that the spiky thing is an oriental fruit called
    a Durian? I guess I just took a walk on the Wilde side.
    Mike Benveniste, May 12, 2009
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    tony cooper Guest

    It's a strange shot. Every time I look at it the thing in the middle
    looks older.
    tony cooper, May 12, 2009
  6. Close enough.

    Even though the Durian has been called the King of Fruits, the shot is
    not a portrait. The original work, of course, was "The Picture of
    Dorian Gray."
    Mike Benveniste, May 12, 2009
  7. I'm humbled! Both of those are excellent photos. Did you just snap what
    was there or what? In particular how is this second shot lit? It looks as
    if you've got light from inside the stable especially on those bars.
    Calvin Sambrook, May 12, 2009
  8. That's brilliant. It's a shame it'll be worse each time I look at it
    though, mind you there's a piece of fruit somewhere having a really good

    Don't beat yourself up about the shadows, no one else will even notice them!
    Calvin Sambrook, May 12, 2009
  9. Anna has always been desperate for a pet and now we have one called "Plank".
    Plank doesn't get much excersise having been in the woodstore for quite some
    time so he really needed a walk. Anna needed to dress as a pirate so she
    could go ...

    Walking the Plank

    You're right about the UK. The garden is actually a neighbour's and I don't
    think they could quite get their heads around why I was taking photos of
    Anna dressed like that and holding a lump of wood on a rope. I suspect they
    just think I'm mad!
    I just assumed you added the blur in post production, I'm well impressed to
    find you did it in the camera. I like it even more now I know that!
    Calvin Sambrook, May 12, 2009
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Ha, yes, very good!

    Paul Furman

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    Paul Furman, May 12, 2009
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    tony cooper Guest

    Thank you. Just daylight. The two stall windows were at opposite
    ends of the building, and the sun just illuminated the interior of the
    darker horse's stall more.

    Just a quick personal story...when my daughter was a young teenager, I
    got her interested in photography by taking her somewhere and saying
    "Find a photograph here". Rather than taking her to a photographic
    opportunity, I pushed her into making an opportunity out of any
    location. She's an avid photographer now.

    I used this same philosophy on the mandate. I stopped at the stable
    and said to myself "find the shots here". That's why they are all
    three horse photos. I always shoot for the mandate rather than pick
    photos from past shots that fit the mandate.

    At least it inspired Annika to come in with one.
    tony cooper, May 13, 2009
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    Annika1980 Guest

    Actually, not.
    This is the first time I've read your comments.
    I did shoot my horse pic for the mandate, but decided not to submit it
    because it didn't really fit the mandate since it wasn't a pun.
    Would that you had made the same decision.
    Annika1980, May 13, 2009
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    tony cooper Guest

    Sure you did.
    tony cooper, May 14, 2009
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