Question about a 2nd plugin folder

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by Carrie, Jun 13, 2011.

  1. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    I just realized I can ask and maybe get an answer to this here! I have
    looked for answers online but haven't found any. Maybe I'm not asking the
    question correctly, or it's so simple no one has put up answers about it?
    I know in preferences I can set up a secondary plugin folder. Somewhere
    else, that won't have to open and load when PS does. But I can find it
    (access it) if I want something in it or to try out new plugins.
    So, I do that, set it up and put in the link to where it is (like on my
    external hard drive or something)
    I open Photoshop. How do I access that 2nd plug in folder?
    It doesn't show in the drop down menu under FILTERS. I thought it might
    show in ACTIONS or file or such. I have set up a 2nd plugin folder and
    checked the box for this and put in the link in preferences, but can't find
    out how to access it. It seems like it would be so simple. I have added
    plugs in to the main folder (like Virtual Painter, etc) and they open fromt
    the drop down menu. I can't find where the 2nd plugin folder is (with PS
    open)
    I am using PS CS3 extended.
    Thanks!
    (PS, I know I'm not the only "grandmother" who came to computer later in
    life, but I'm not like a 20 year old going to college and taking Graphic
    Design. I'm an old dog learning new tricks) LOL
     
    Carrie, Jun 13, 2011
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  2. Carrie

    Lee J. Moore Guest

    If you ticked the "Additional Plug-Ins Folder" checkbox and selected a
    folder, the plugins should be initialized the next time you close and re-
    open Photoshop. Is that not happening?
     
    Lee J. Moore, Jun 13, 2011
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  3. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    It's in the drop down Fileter menu? I haven't tried it lately but I did
    and then took the link out because I didn't see anything. I could always try
    it with an empty folder just to see. I was trying to put plugins I don't
    always use (which is most of them) in it. I wasn't sure where to look for
    them, I didn't see anything in the drop down under filters. I have some that
    say "other", and Virtual Painter that shows up (and Akvis Sketch I had the
    trial of) but they are in the main plugin folder.
    I'll try it again

    I've heard this before and it is probably one of the truest things ever
    said...
     
    Carrie, Jun 13, 2011
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  4. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    Okay, I played around with it and got it to work. I had the wrong idea
    about it. I thought it would shope up as a separate folder in the filters,
    that I could click on to open if I wanted it at some point but otherwise it
    wouldn't load (and take a long time) Though I suppose I can uncheck it
    unless I wan to try filters. I'm always saying I am going over them and
    taking out ones I know I'll never use, but then I don't always know what
    name they are (in the files). I also put a dash in "Plug-ins" just now. I
    didn't h ave that but noticed my main Plug-In folder did. I don't know if
    that matters.
    I had a folder of "plug-ins to try" with folders of them (like Andrew's
    filers, etc) Now I have the 2nd plug-in older set up and checked, ALL the
    plug ins open in Filters. It also took a very long time for PS to open and I
    heard my external F drive (where the 2nd folder is) working.
    I think there is something I can download free that will organize and
    save plug-ins I don't use much (if ever) that will only load if and when I
    want it?
    Overall, I don't use the plug-in (effects) too much. Sometimes I have a
    picture I really like (like now I have some of the beautiful wildflowers
    that are out now it's Spring) and go some of the plug-in filers to see what
    I can change it in to.
    At least I found out that the extra Plug-In folder works, but it still
    loads them all whe PS opens. So I might as well have them in the regular
    Plug-In folder?
    (sometimes I'm surprised I can talk "computer stuff" it's like another
    language (LOL)
     
    Carrie, Jun 13, 2011
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  5. Carrie

    Lee J. Moore Guest

    Carrie - the Additional Plugins Folder is just there for your convenience
    really in case you have plugins at a separate location. Some Photoshop
    users also use editing suites which are compatible with Photoshop plugins
    for example (like Paint Shop Pro), and may want some or all of their
    plugins stored at the 'Additional' location to avoid duplication. The
    plugins still appear at the same location on the Filter menu, regardless
    of their location on the filesystem.

    Also, external hard drives are a *lot* slower than internal hard drives,
    so it's not a great idea to have your additional plugins folder located
    upon one. As you have discovered, Photoshop initializes all plugins upon
    being launched, so configuring it this way will really slow it down.
     
    Lee J. Moore, Jun 13, 2011
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  6. Carrie

    Lee J. Moore Guest

    Try clicking File > Open As (instead of File > Open) then select the image
    file you want to open, but make sure you've selected 'Camera Raw' from the
    drop down menu below before clicking the Open button.

    I think most of us (particularly those of us who use the Windows version
    of Photoshop) have a love/hate relationship with Adobe Bridge. :D
     
    Lee J. Moore, Jun 13, 2011
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  7. Carrie

    Savageduck Guest

    First, I am a Mac user running CS5. I had also been using LR2, together
    with CS3 before upgrading to CS5.
    Now I find the improvement to Bridge (CS5) and ACR such that I hardly
    use LR and I have rejected the idea of upgrading to LR3.

    For weeding out shots in a series in Bridge I use the rating system to
    flag the images as I check through them, either leaving a shot unrated,
    star rated (1-5), or flagged with "select", "Approved", "Review", To
    Do", or "Rejected".
    Then without actually trashing any of the image files (memory is cheap)
    I can filter on any of the rating/flagging criteria to only display
    those images I need to show for any particular job.
    For example, from a shoot of 3-400 shots, my search criteria might be 2
    star or higher, or perhaps 3 star or higher. I then find myself
    presented with a reduced number of shots, perhaps 20 instead of 400 to
    work on.
    It is then a simple matter to change the search criteria to return to
    the previously "rejected" group to see if anything can be salvaged. You
    can't do that if you dump them at the start. The same goes for shots
    which had been unrated, or of a lower rating.

    As far as opening a JPEG in ACR, it is simple from Bridge, just right
    click on the thumbnail in Bridge an you will have a drop down menu
    giving you the option to "Open", "Open with" (any other editor), or
    "Open in Camera RAW).
    You will be missing some of the adjustment flexibility you would have
    had with a RAW file, (WB, and Camera profile for example) but there is
    nothing stopping you from making other adjustments from straightening,
    to crops, to spot removal, adding gradients, etc. all non-destructively
    in ACR. You can also apply the same adjustments to several shots which
    might need the same correction. (That can also be done for RAW files.)

    If you then click on the "Done" button all those ACR edits and
    adjustment will be saved to an XMP "sidecar" file and it will appear
    with those changes in Bridge. These are non-destructive changes as you
    have not altered the original JPEG, you have just added an instruction
    set. Now when you open that JPEG/RAW file in CS you will have saved
    several process steps in Photoshop. Then use "Save as" to rename your
    finished product leaving the original intact.
     
    Savageduck, Jun 13, 2011
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  8. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    Thanks for all the good info. I don't think I need Lightroom, it's just
    one more program. My Canon Rebel does take RAW images and can also be set to
    RAW and JPG (1 picture, 2 formats) I had it set on that for awhile, but they
    are so big, and I go over what I take and weed out the best ones to do
    something with anyway. I've really just now gotten into the idea of RAW and
    what it can do. Seems like other adjustments (in PS) can do the same, but I
    have to keep going and opening one and don't have them all in front of me.
    I take a lot of shots outside, of the changing seasons, like right now
    it's a lot green and wildflowers. Mainly just for my own pleasure and
    sharing them when I can. That, and PS helps me feel like I'm learning and
    doing and being productive.
     
    Carrie, Jun 13, 2011
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    Joel Guest

    When I was using plug-ins, I was always installed in 2nd folder outside of
    Photoshop's main folder. So if you nêd to reinstall/uninstall Photoshop you
    won't lose the installed plug-ins.

    To add the 2nd plug-ins folder you have to add from the References'
    setting.
     
    Joel, Jun 15, 2011
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  10. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    I never paid much attention to Adobe Bridge, but after learning more
    about it use it more. I like it to go over my pictures and delete ones I
    don't want to keep. Which, I guess seems obvious.
    The more I learn about PS the more I see what I didn't know.
    This might be also true about people and "life" LOL
     
    Carrie, Jun 24, 2011
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  11. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    I know, I am finding this out. And I think for now anyway, what I am
    currently doing is enough.
    Maybe because I found computers (and PS, etc) at a later age, I feel
    like I have so much to learn and catch up with and it's always one step
    ahead of me. I have found videos easier to learn from. Find a lot in
    YouTube, too, but some aren't so good. I spend a lot of time looking for
    tutorials. Another big help is having 2 monitors.
     
    Carrie, Jun 24, 2011
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  12. Carrie

    Savageduck Guest

    Kelby & Photoshop User TV always have something of interest once you
    get through the individual gushing from the hosts.
    < http://kelbytv.com/photoshopusertv/ >
    Go to "Shows" at that site and also check out "Lightroom Killer Tips" &
    D-TownTV.

    Also it is worth taking a look at what CS5 with the current version of
    bridge has to offer.
    <
    http://tv.adobe.com/watch/photoshop...-in-photoshop-cs5-and-photoshop-cs5-extended/
     
    Savageduck, Jun 24, 2011
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