Quiet DSLR?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by greeny, Feb 28, 2005.

  1. greeny

    John Francis Guest

    Something like this, you mean?

    <http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/HouseConcert.jpg>

    [that's Pete Sumner & John Conolly, taken last year]

    It's impossible to be totally unobtrusive in such a situation,
    even if you're not using a(n) SLR - there are so few people present
    that you're bound to be noticed. It's even worse if, as was the
    case here, you really need to use fill flash a lot of the time.

    I tried to be selective about when I took the shots; after all,
    the other guests were there to enjoy the music. Wait for the
    end of a verse, or some other break in the rhythm, and grab a
    quick shot or two. Trying too hard to be unobtrusive is often
    counter-productive. But if you're quick, and businesslike,
    you'll soon blend into the background fabric and be ignored.

    I was using a (D)SLR for these shots, so it wasn't silent.
    But nobody seemed to be upset, and the performers (and our
    host for the evening) liked the results.

    Oh, yes: - the technical details:

    Pentax *ist-D @ ISO 200, Pentax FA 28-105/f4-f5.6 @ 33mm.

    Exposure 1/30 @ f4.0, bounce flash, custom white balance.
     
    John Francis, Mar 2, 2005
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  2. greeny

    Ton Maas Guest

    The problem with measuring the noise in dB is that the graph doesn't
    show the variation in character of the sounds produced by both shutter
    and mirror mechanism. Even if they are not a lot less loud, some are
    more pleasant than others :)

    Ton
     
    Ton Maas, Mar 2, 2005
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  3. greeny

    Ton Maas Guest

    I'm in a LOT of concerft settings - even with a whole ensemble on stage
    - where even the noise from my relatively quiet E-1 causes disturbance.
    Not so much for the musicians, but for people in the audience around
    where I'm situated.

    Ton
     
    Ton Maas, Mar 2, 2005
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  4. Please kill this thread at once -- you never know when a marketing-type
    might be listening in ...

    Regards,
    Graham Holden (g-holden AT dircon DOT co DOT uk)
     
    Graham Holden, Mar 2, 2005
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  5. greeny

    DoN. Nichols Guest

    Agreed. With that floor lamp in the field of view, you really
    needed the flash to get the facial features and such to come out right.
    That is good. When I am at a house concert, it is normally to
    listen, which may explain my reluctance to take photos during the
    performance.
    Hmm ... have you ever compared the sounds from your Pentax with
    a Nikon D70? The D70 is a lot quieter than the N90s at least. :)

    Enjoy,
    DoN.
     
    DoN. Nichols, Mar 2, 2005
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  6. greeny

    John Francis Guest

    I haven't handled a D70. I have used a N90; that's up there with
    my PZ-1p in the "wham, bam, thank you Ma'am" noisemaker category.
    Fortunately the *ist-D isn't that loud.
    (I've also used a D100 and a D1, but in each case I was shooting
    at a motorsports event, so paid no attention to the camera noise)

    At least with a DSLR you only have the mirror and shutter noise.
    I found that quite often the most obtrusive part of the noise from
    a film SLR was the whizz/whine of the film advance mechanism. One
    of the features I really missed from my earlier cameras, which had
    at most external accessory drives, was the ability to delay the
    film advance; it only engaged once I released the shutter button,
    so by keeping the shutter depressed I could prevent the noise (or,
    rather, delay it until it would be less obtrusive). Not that the
    other noise isn't a problem - if I wanted quiet I'd use my MZ-S
    (even if I wasn't using it for other reasons) - it had more of a
    'snick & click'. I suspect the rather slower film advance was
    a major contibuting factor, although the extra rigidity of the
    chassis can't be discounted.
     
    John Francis, Mar 2, 2005
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  7. greeny

    m II Guest


    I'd like to Supersize that.


    Dante would have had fun adding another circle to H*ll, filled with nothing BUT
    marketing types.



    mike
     
    m II, Mar 2, 2005
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  8. greeny

    Stacey Guest

    Sure why wouldn't I?
     
    Stacey, Mar 3, 2005
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  9. greeny

    DoN. Nichols Guest

    Not as bad as a Nikon F with a motor drive. :) I experienced
    that when I was recording an outdoors wedding in a rather pleasant
    setting, with bird song in the background.

    Unfortunately, I was not able to set up microphones far enough
    away from the photographer, who had such a camera.
    Well ... with one designed from the beginning as a DSLR, yes.
    My N90s experience was with one which had been converted by Kodak to be
    a digital (for the AP), so that while I was digital, I was still stuck
    with the film advance mechanism's noise. (And no LCD to view the
    resulting images before I got it back to a computer to check on it.
    That would be a nice feature if you were stuck with that noise.
    Certainly another contributing factor.

    Enjoy,
    DoN.
     
    DoN. Nichols, Mar 3, 2005
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  10. You mean another circle of "... THE place to be! Fantastic opportunities
    to 'network' with other like-minded movers-and-shakers; real flame-effect
    fires contribute to the 'EvaCozy' (tm) atmosphere, where deadlines are a
    thing of the past since you're here for all eternity"

    Regards,
    Graham Holden (g-holden AT dircon DOT co DOT uk)
     
    Graham Holden, Mar 3, 2005
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