R.I.P. Thomas Kinkade

Discussion in 'Photography' started by tony cooper, Apr 7, 2012.

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    tony cooper Guest

    The "artist" Thomas Kinkade died Friday at age 54.
    tony cooper, Apr 7, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    ....and yet the nausea persists.
    Savageduck, Apr 7, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    The titan of tacky?

    Ah, well, at least he was happy at what he did, made other people happy
    with his product.

    At >$100M in sales per year he was successful, at least. (Source, NYT).
    Alan Browne, Apr 7, 2012
  4. John Sisker's former employer.
    Charles E. Hardwidge, Apr 8, 2012
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    notbob Guest

    But, his company ended in bankruptcy. This Wash Post article paints
    (sorry, couldn't help myself ;) a less than flattering picture:


    notbob, Apr 8, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    I'm not fascinated enough to bother ... (no reflection on you).
    Alan Browne, Apr 8, 2012
  7. It's not like he was really in a position to "defraud" anybody; they saw
    exactly what they were going to get. And they seemed to be very happy
    with it.

    I didn't care that much for his work myself, but his direct-to-consumer
    model is about the MOST honest way anybody has ever made large amounts
    of money. Every cent came from somebody who deliberately bought one of
    his works.
    Very successful indeed. (He had expensese, though, his income would
    have been much lower than that. Why, possibly even only in the tens of
    millions per year. So modest!)
    David Dyer-Bennet, Apr 12, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    I'm not sure that's a particularly good defense. Every one of Bernie
    Madoff's investors deliberately bought what he recommended.
    tony cooper, Apr 12, 2012
  9. Kincaid delivered what was bought.
    David Dyer-Bennet, Apr 12, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    He didn't do it for money, he did it for his art! :)
    Alan Browne, Apr 12, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    Again, not a good defense. The flea market here sells knock-off brand
    name stuff. Counterfeit. The seller can't use the defense that the
    buyer deliberately bought the item and received the merchandise.

    I don't think Kincaid was a fraud. His agents who promised ridiculous
    appreciation in the value of his works were skating pretty close to
    the edge, though.
    tony cooper, Apr 13, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    ....but worse, look what he did to John Sisker!
    Savageduck, Apr 13, 2012
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    Peabody Guest

    tony cooper says...
    A recent article, I think from Yahoo Finance, listed Nine
    Worthless Collectibles:

    Hummel Figurines
    Beanie Babies
    Franklin Mint Collectibles
    Hess Trucks
    Thomas Kinkade Paintings
    Precious Moments Figurines
    Norman Rockwell Plates
    Lladro Statues
    Cabbage Patch Kids
    Peabody, Apr 13, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    I give you the following:
    Savageduck, Apr 13, 2012
  15. But did anybody ever think they were buying anything other than a
    Kincade painting? (I seem to have had the spelling wrong before; fixed
    in new text in this followup.)
    Yeah, that part, promoting it as an investment, seemed bogus. I'm
    cynical about art as an investment (I love art as art; and of course if
    you're lucky, get in early, and your timing is right the investment
    protential is HUGE), so I ignored that stuff enough that I didn't think
    of it. But yeah, definitely it seemed edgy or flat-out fraudulent to
    David Dyer-Bennet, Apr 13, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Damn, I'm hearing names...
    Alan Browne, Apr 13, 2012
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    philo Guest

    My wife said he drank himself to death.

    She also said:

    I'd drink a lot too if that was my type of art.

    BTW: Though I know it's customary to find something good to say about
    the deceased...I always thought it best to do that while they are still
    philo, Apr 14, 2012
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    otter Guest

    I think it is fashionable to put down Kincade, just as it is to put down Kenny G. I don't personally care for either, but I know each had a lot of fans. It took some amount of talent to do what either of them did.

    I know some of the pictures that are being shown in the Kincade stories lately are hideous. But I seem to remember some of the earlier ones weren't as bad. Maybe stylistically over-the-top, but he did invent a style for himself that no one had done before.

    At any rate, I'd say they are at least as good as the dogs playing poker, or the velvet Elvis.
    otter, Apr 15, 2012
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    philo Guest

    I have a half-brother

    so I think he may only be half as bad as me!
    philo, Apr 15, 2012
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