Raw photo software

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Mayayana, Aug 11, 2012.

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    Mayayana Guest

    XP 32-bit. Can anyone shed some light on stable options
    for processing raw photos?

    Photos from Nikon and Panasonic cameras.

    No Photoshop.

    RawTherapee sometimes crashes with a VC++ runtime error.

    UFRaw crashes generally. (GIMP 2.8 is installed with UFRaw
    installed to the GIMP folder. I haven't yet tried installing an
    earlier GIMP version.)

    Found Delaboratory but haven't yet tried it.

    Another option seems to be Photiva. But Delaboratory
    and Photiva both seem to be lacking even the most
    basic documentation.

    Panasonic software is pretty good, but only for the
    Panasonic camera. Nikon's ViewNX is limited and their
    more involved software is expensive.
    Mayayana, Aug 11, 2012
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    PeterN Guest

    Try Corel PhotoPaint.
    PeterN, Aug 11, 2012
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    Bruce Guest

    Try here:
    Bruce, Aug 11, 2012
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    Guest Guest

    Guest, Aug 12, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    Savageduck, Aug 12, 2012
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    No don't. It's obsolete and never had a raw converter, as far as I

    Try Corel Paint Shop Pro.
    Eric Stevens, Aug 12, 2012
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    Mayayana Guest

    | > XP 32-bit. Can anyone shed some light on stable options
    | > for processing raw photos?
    | lightroom.

    The latest version doesn't support XP. But I'm
    not sure it's really what I'm looking for, either.
    It seems to be a photo organizer. (The descriptions
    are vague.)
    Mayayana, Aug 12, 2012
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    Mayayana Guest

    | Try Corel PhotoPaint.

    That seems to be a basic grpahic editor. I'm looking
    specifically for a raw photo editor. At this point I'm
    looking for open source options, mainly because the
    price of Photoshop is absurd. But a very good program
    at a reasonable price would also be fine.
    Mayayana, Aug 12, 2012
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    Mayayana Guest

    | Try here:
    | <http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5389>

    That's something I didn't know about, but how
    does it apply to raw photo editors? UFRaw and
    RawTherapee can both handle different formats.
    I can open a Nikon .NEF in either, for instance.
    It's just that the programs themselves don't seem
    to be stable. Would conversion to the neutral format
    help with that?
    Mayayana, Aug 12, 2012
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    Guest Guest

    maybe you can still find an older version.
    it's an organizer, raw processor, output manager (print, web, slide
    show, books, etc.) and more.

    it does just about everything most people need.

    highly recommended.

    30 day free trial (although probably not for the older xp compatible
    Guest, Aug 12, 2012
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    Guest Guest

    adobe camera raw (part of lightroom) will process just about any raw
    format there is.
    Guest, Aug 12, 2012
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    PeterN Guest

    I was just playing with Corel PhotoPaint, Sorry, I meant Paint Shop Pro,
    also a Corel product. They have a 30day free trial.
    PeterN, Aug 12, 2012
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    J. Clarke Guest

    Is there any reason you don't want to run Photoshop Elements 10?
    J. Clarke, Aug 12, 2012
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    Mayayana Guest

    | Is there any reason you don't want to run Photoshop Elements 10?

    I don't know. I'm looking for recommendations from
    people who work with raw photos. My only experience
    with PS Elements was a few years ago. It was junk.
    $100 for what was actually just a repackaging of the
    shareware PS3. But it may be very different now.

    It's hard to compare these different programs, so I
    was looking to narrow down the list of possibilities to
    programs that experienced photographers recommend.
    I have Paint Shop Pro 5 and the GIMP, which covers
    general graphic editing. The need is specifically for
    raw editing.

    In general I'd prefer to avoid Adobe. Their software
    is *very* bloated and *very* expensive. But at this
    point I'm not ruling out anything. It sounds like everyone
    here is using Adobe products. No one has commented
    on UFRaw, RawTherapee, or anything else open-source.
    Mayayana, Aug 12, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    I have and use Adobe CS4, but I also have Elements 9.0. My daughter
    doesn't have CSanything, so I bought E 9.0 and installed it on both my
    computer and her computer. (Adobe allows two installs of Elements).
    She's learning E9.0, and I have it so I can help her in this process.

    I'm not going to try to make you like Elements, but it's not "junk"
    and it does much more than Gimp. Less than CSX, but E 10.0 has the
    RAW capability you want, and it's available for less than $100. If
    you buy a copy of E 9.0 on eBay, it's much less and has the RAW
    capability. There's very little I can do in CS4 that I can't do in
    Elements 9.0.

    Lightroom, of course, also has RAW capability but you'd have to learn
    a new series of steps in general editing to take advantage of LR.
    Jumping from Gimp to Elements would be easier than jumping from Gimp
    to LR. A big factor in the choice, though, would be
    cataloging/keywording aspect of LR. If this is of interest, it might
    sway the decision.

    When you say a program is "junk", it doesn't mean anything other than
    a general aversion to it. If you want helpful information, you have
    to provide some information about what you think is lacking. Those of
    us who have some experience with the program can then address your
    specific comments.
    tony cooper, Aug 12, 2012
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    Rich Guest

    Paint Shop Pro is a good program but...they are probably only up to the
    Nikon D200 in terms of raw support right now. :)
    Rich, Aug 12, 2012
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Not so. My D300 has no problems.

    From their web site, they support the following Nikon cameras.

    "Coolpix: P6000, P7000, P7100, S6, D1, D100, D1H, D1X, D200, D2H,
    D2Hs, D2X, D2Xs, D3, D3X, D300, D3000, D3100, D5100, D300s, D40,
    D40X, D50, D5000, D7000, D60, D70, D70s, D700, D80, D90, E2100,
    E2500, E3200, E3700, E4300, E4500, E5000, E5400, E5700, E8400,
    E8700, E8800, E700, E800, E880, E900, E950, E990, E995, 1"

    For the full range of all makes of cameras supported see the tech
    specs on their web site.

    What does impress me is the ability of the PSP software to unravel
    Nikon NEF files containing multiple edits from NX2. Mind you its
    s l o w . I usually save files already edited in NX2 that I want to
    further edit in Paint Shop Pro as TIFFS, in NX2. Its much quicker.
    Eric Stevens, Aug 12, 2012
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    Bruce Guest

    I don't know, but I suggested it as another approach, one that you
    haven't tried yet.

    There's also Lightroom, but it isn't free and there's no guarantee it
    will be stable on your hardware. You might like to try increasing
    your computer's RAM.

    All graphics applications thrive on RAM, the more the better. The
    instability may happen when you run out of RAM and the application has
    to run via swap files (virtual RAM) on your hard disk.
    Bruce, Aug 12, 2012
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    Bruce Guest

    But if it reads .dng files, use Adobe DNG converter (free).
    Bruce, Aug 12, 2012
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    Neil Ellwood Guest

    You could have a look at RawTherapee.
    Neil Ellwood, Aug 12, 2012
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