Re almost arrested for taking photos.

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by Sandy Barrie, Jul 29, 2004.

  1. Sandy Barrie

    Sandy Barrie Guest

    While it is illegal for people to stry and stop you taking photos in a
    public place, what has happend is they jet you for assult when you try
    and resist them, as happened to a tourist in the Brisbane Mall...he was
    a german and the fact he did not speak english well did not stop the
    court from fining him for assult after resisting their attempst to sieze
    his camer, nothing about the taking of photos.

    Sandy Barrie
     
    Sandy Barrie, Jul 29, 2004
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    John_H Guest

    Are you German by any chance? :)
     
    John_H, Jul 29, 2004
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    Cameron Guest

    I don't think Sandy has EVER read a reply to one of her/his posts so this
    will be an interesting test.... R U there Sandy???
     
    Cameron, Jul 29, 2004
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    Wolf359 Guest

    I would like to see the original article.

    Basically if someone attempts to take your camera you can use equal force to
    resist. It is called self-defense. If it is some private security guard is
    hassling you insist they call the police. DEMAND they call the police.
    Scream at the top of your voice for the police.

    Taking photos in a public may be a civil tort it is not a crime.
     
    Wolf359, Jul 31, 2004
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  5. Sandy Barrie

    Sandy Barrie Guest

    Hi,

    yes I am reading.

    A direction by a warrented law officer, dows not permit you to resist...

    If you want a copy of my article about my run in with the lay, send my
    you email address and I will send Jpeg files of the page scans... 4 Pages.

    Regards

    Sandy
     
    Sandy Barrie, Aug 4, 2004
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    Cameron Guest

    True, but police can't just make up directions. Just like (unless there is
    a standing local law in effect) they can't make you 'move-on'.
     
    Cameron, Aug 4, 2004
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    RV Guest

    I beleive that is not STEALING
    It is called "Unlawful seizure", close to theft but not quite.

    Id suggest that the security guard grabbing the camera off you could
    attract Unlawful seizure and in the case you struggle against the
    guard and he injures you maybe add assault as well..
    If the camera gets damaged maybe add wilfull destruction of property.

    Thad be enough to end a security career Id say.
    if you get the securty guard trying to snatch the gear Id offer them
    that list and the bleak outlook for their future in that job if they
    try it and you call the cops.

    But if they order you to "move on" while you are taking pics, you must
    do so and leave, but there is no law stopping you snapping the shutter
    off as you do leave..
     
    RV, Aug 5, 2004
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  8. Sandy Barrie

    Wolf359 Guest


    Of course it doesn't. But we are talking about security guards, not
    policemen or officers of the court. A security guard is not a 'warranted'
    officer. they are a civilian in uniform and may make a citizen's arrest ONLY
    if you are committing a crime.

    And taking pictures is NOT a crime. If a security guard attempts to grab
    your camera he is STEALING.

    http://www.google.com.au/search?q=cache:MKFvIrmNMC8J:www.simpsons.com.au/lib
    rary/documents/visarts/visarts89/12Photog.pdf+legislation+photography+privac
    y&hl=en&start=21

    Section D mostly

    "Until the law is altered we are left with a confused position where those
    who feel that their privacy has been invaded, e.g. by the unauthorised
    publication of a photograph,must rely on causes of action that are not
    always appropriate. There are many instances where a person does not have a
    remedy for unauthorised publication. In the absence of privacy laws
    photographers in Australia have a good deal of freedom as to where and what
    they can photograph."

    and if you buy the latest Australian Photography magazine there are some
    simple rules in there for street photography.
     
    Wolf359, Aug 5, 2004
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    Narelle Guest

    So has anyone received this article from Sandy?? Care to forward it to
    me? I emailed, but have heard nothing, and would be very interested in
    seeing it. Although it's starting to look more and more like the Loch
    Ness Monster
    thanks
    N
     
    Narelle, Aug 12, 2004
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    Cameron Guest

    Ah ha, neither have I.

    What a shock!
     
    Cameron, Aug 12, 2004
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  11. Sandy Barrie

    Sandy Barrie Guest

    HI,

    I have posted to you, but maybe you ISP wont let through such alrge filed.

    Posted again today.

    Let me know if it does not come through this time.

    Regards

    Sandy
     
    Sandy Barrie, Aug 19, 2004
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    Narelle Guest

    Not received. Did it bounce back to you? How big is the file?
    I have forgotten now which email I gave you; if it is this one, it holds
    up to 3mb and is virtually empty atm. However, I will send you another
    email with my actual isp address.
    thnx
    Narelle
     
    Narelle, Aug 19, 2004
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