Re: Does any other program (windows or linux) do screenshotannotation efficiently?

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by Danny D., Apr 21, 2013.

  1. The facts:
    a) Photoshop is mighty expensive.
    b) The OP's looking for freeware.
    c) You don't need any of the power of Photoshop for screenshot
    annotations. (You don't need a Saturn V rocket to manage
    the 4 miles to the mall, either, even if your car won't
    get you to the moon and you happen to have a spare Saturn V
    lying about.)
    d) 'easily' is relative. To you, used to complex manipulations
    in Photoshop, 'easy' is one thing, To someone who doesn't
    even know where to look for anything in the Photoshop menus.
    e) The learning curve for 'easy' in Photoshop is way steeper.
    That's not the point, the example is stupid and does not
    apply and you KNOW it. Of course, feel free to fire up
    Photoshop for JPEGs that come in via email, rotate them
    clockwise by 90° and place them in a directory. I'd use
    jpegtran --rotate 90
    (which is, unlike Photoshop, lossless) and a tiny bit glue
    script, ONCE, and be done with it forever.

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, May 7, 2013
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  2. You have a very disciplined mind. You disciplined it to not
    accept new ideas that don't agree with your view of the world.

    Next time you read your maps at full speed on the highway or
    while in dense traffic in your truck ... remember while they
    cut you out of your truck that you could have used a navigation
    system (e.g. in a smartphone).

    Obviously you always carry your maps with you while on foot.

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, May 7, 2013
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  3. DOES it matter?
    Maybe if they wanna have sex: it might be one of them is
    sexually repulsed to the other's gender. Or if they want
    to make a child --- at least while the relevant technologies
    aren't invented and ready yet --- then they need (at least)
    one male and one female somehow involved.

    In some backward places of the world marriage might also be
    a problem with the wrong genders.

    But otherwise: Tell me why it matters to you! Do you routinely
    treat people different just because their squiggly bits are
    this or that way?
    Yes, in former times, before the phone was invented, and
    probably before letters were invented (or you were unlettered),
    you had to talk to your neighbours because you couldn't talk
    to *anybody* else.
    So he wasn't perfect, was he?

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, May 7, 2013
  4. You also don't need desktops or web pages. The Amish also
    manage with lots less.
    At the next accident far out and with no traffic ... remember
    that you could call for help *and* continue to give first aid
    because you don't need to drive for miles and miles and miles
    to the next phone booth.

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, May 7, 2013
  5. That's NOT WHAT I SAID!

    I said:
    | Well, of course, if you never *had* a smart phone and really
    | used it, you're not likely to understand what you might need it
    | for;

    This is *vastly* different from "if you don't use it, it's
    because you don't get it".

    Maybe you need a smartphone to have it read texts to you
    aloud, at least then it would be just that you're hard of
    hearing instead of functional illiteracy stopping you from
    understanding what is actually written.

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, May 7, 2013
  6. I know people who are hard of hearing, who think that everybody
    should simply talk louder, because they think they don't need
    hearing aids.

    Obviously you think that because it's possible to be blissfully
    unaware of some technology there can't be any advances in
    that technology.

    Obviously one of the people who can't live without their car.
    BTW: The Amish don't need cars to be happy. I don't know if
    they have point-and-shoots or not. But they are aware of

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, May 7, 2013
  7. Danny D.

    Guest Guest

    the full version is.

    however, elements isn't very expensive ($50-60ish) and is more than
    sufficient for the task. it also does a lot more than the free stuff
    and is well worth its price.
    but he might want to do more than *just* annotations.
    to someone who doesn't know where to look is going to have trouble with
    any app.

    learning photoshop is not very hard. it's easier than the gimp. it's a
    very well designed app. plus, there are a *lot* of resources available
    for learning photoshop for anyone who needs it, much more than the
    gimp. a quick google search and they'll probably find numerous how-tos,
    both text and on youtube.
    write a script. photoshop isn't ideal for that, but it will certainly
    work. or just set the orientation tag to the desired rotation.

    let's see you crop all of the jpegs to a 2:3 aspect ratio with a
    scripted command line utility, making sure to not cut off anything
    important. that should be interesting. or how about retouching out a
    tree, again using a command line.

    and why would anyone want to rotate all email photos anyway? can you
    say contrived scenario?
    photoshop can do lossless jpeg rotate.
    Guest, May 8, 2013
  8. Danny D.

    Shadow Guest

    Of course. It's my job.
    Shadow, May 8, 2013
  9. Danny D.

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Why do people trying to prove a point use such ridiculous examples?
    Tony Cooper, May 8, 2013
  10. Danny D.

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Again, you misunderstand. While some people, as I am, are aware of
    the technological advances we don't feel we need take advantage of all
    of them. And, frankly, we don't give a rat's ass that this bothers
    That's true. It would be a great inconvenience not to have one. It
    is not a great inconvenience not to have a smart phone.
    Do you have a note card file of ridiculous examples?
    Tony Cooper, May 8, 2013
  11. Danny D.

    Tony Cooper Guest

    All this suggests to me is that you are person who is not smart enough
    to read a map while still parked, make a mental note of the coming
    turns, and put the map away, and can't imagine that anyone else is.

    Do you wonder how people arrived at their destinations before the
    advent of mobile devices?
    Tony Cooper, May 8, 2013
  12. Danny D.

    Tony Cooper Guest

    I would use Photoshop on a trivial task because:
    I already own it and I purchased it for other purposes.
    There is no expense to me to use it on a trivial task.
    I didn't suggest the OP buy Photoshop. Have someone read what has
    been written and explain it to you.
    But I don't need the puny power of another app because I have PS.
    I don't have someone else use my copy of PS to do a trivial task.
    I've mastered the curve. Well, for most functions.
    Of course it is. Get outside help if you need it to follow what I
    Is this something you deal with frequently? JPEGs sent to you that
    need rotating? Rather than worry about what program to use to rotate
    incoming JPEGs, you should worry about what kind of idiots you are
    dealing with that constantly email you JPEGs that need rotating.

    Actually, while people don't send me JPEGs in need of rotation, I
    would use FastStone (a free program) for this purpose. I use
    FastStone as an image viewer, image re-numbering program, and a
    program that easily moves or copies files from one place to another.
    While I could do this in Bridge, FastStone does some things Bridge
    doesn't do so I use it.
    Tony Cooper, May 8, 2013
  13. Danny D.

    Guest Guest

    maybe now. wait a year or two.

    there was a time when not having a computer was not a big deal. now
    it's pretty much impossible be without a computer.

    same for mobile devices, including smartphones.
    Guest, May 8, 2013
  14. Danny D.

    Guest Guest

    that won't work that well for a complicated route. just how much of it
    are you going to memorize?

    and what if you encounter traffic? suddenly, your memorized route is no
    longer ideal.

    or if you're in an unfamiliar place and the street signs aren't easily
    seen, and in your attempt to look for it you're driving very slow
    (pissing off the people behind you) or not paying full attention to
    driving (endangering the people both behind and in front of you).

    meanwhile, a gps can reroute you around traffic automatically, tell you
    the names of upcoming streets (so even if you memorized it, you know
    where to turn) and do so safely. that's being smart.
    there was a time when people used manual typewriters too. do you want
    to go back to those times?

    technology advances. some people fight it, others welcome it.
    Guest, May 8, 2013
  15. Danny D.

    notbob Guest

    .....and others would be lost without 'em.
    notbob, May 8, 2013
  16. Danny D.

    notbob Guest

    Yep. When I was in heavy construction, usta get a simple hand drawn
    map to the job site every morning. Some sites were 4-5 towns away in
    a crowded metro area. No batteries and I could read it without

    notbob, May 8, 2013
  17. Danny D.

    Shadow Guest

    No reason to carry a personal tracking-device/map/weather
    forecast/FaceKook computer with you. I use a cheapo cellphone when I
    travel. It sends and receives text and voice. Battery lasts a month.
    Cost 40 dollars, plus a 10 dollar monthly fee. Two other people know
    the number (aside from Google, the NSA, Amazon , and World Exploit
    Shadow, May 8, 2013
  18. Danny D.

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Buying a mobile phone because the person has some health problem and
    wants to be in a position to be able to contact emergency services at
    any time and any place is both reasonable and wise. Buying a phone
    because one might come across an accident in a remote setting is
    ridiculous. Buying a phone because one fears being in an accident -
    or even having mechanical problems - in a remote place is also both
    reasonable and wise, but the example given is ridiculous.
    Tony Cooper, May 8, 2013
  19. Danny D.

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Certainly, that's possible, even probable. Waiting until we need a
    particular application of new technology is not a sign
    anti-progressivism. It's just a sign that the person is capable of
    making personal decisions suited to the person's personal situation
    and not, lemming-like, buying something because it's the latest new
    Tony Cooper, May 8, 2013
  20. Danny D.

    Martin Brown Guest

    I don't know what it is like where you live but I no longer know where
    the nearest public pay phone to my home is. I know where half a dozen
    nearest ones used to be but they were all rationalised out of existence.
    The nearest is over ten miles and might well be twenty.

    Google maps street view is no help all the ones on there are long gone!

    The chances of finding a public pay phone box outside of a major railway
    station or city centre these days is practically nil in the UK. Everyone
    has a mobile so there is literally no demand for fixed line public
    phones. They ceased to be profitable and were ripped out (even in some
    highly rural locations with little or no mobile coverage).
    Martin Brown, May 8, 2013
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