Re: Has your memory card ever worn out?

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Soundhaspriority, Jul 21, 2012.

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    Eric Stevens Guest

    It's very much the same thing. Among other things, atomotive scanners
    read the error-code log-files in the car.
    Eric Stevens, Aug 18, 2012
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    Guest Guest

    it's not the same thing because technicians who fix computers or cars
    have very different needs and training than typical users who edit
    photos and drive to the grocery store.

    nevertheless, it actually supports my point.

    code readers don't give you a list of logged values the sensors
    recorded. instead, they tell you what's wrong in english (the better
    ones do, the cheap ones make you look up the code).

    more importantly, the typical driver sees the check engine light come
    on, they take it to a shop and the mechanic takes care of the rest.
    Guest, Aug 18, 2012
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    And the mechanic needs the on-board log files.

    Same with computers. The mechanic (or whatever you call them) also
    need the on-board log files.
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    This was a long time ago!

    I suspect the offending programs may have been one or two of Photo
    Paint, Quattro Pro and possibly Visual CAD. I can't remember how Word
    Perfect and Paradox behaved. Just about anyone of these programs not
    behaving would have been enough to rule out the Radius software.
    Or not rotating the screen, which is what I decided to do.
    I was disappointed that it didn't work but it wasn't worth the hassle
    to me. Not like the time my backup software munched my hard disc.
    It's called Windows. :)
    Eric Stevens, Aug 20, 2012
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    Guest Guest

    no he doesn't.

    all he does is look at the code and does what is necessary to solve the
    problem. that may involve further testing, depending on what the code
    is. most of the time, it tells you exactly what needs fixing.
    a technician might need it if he was diagnosing a problem, but normal
    users definitely do not.
    Guest, Aug 20, 2012
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    From where do you think he gets the historic error codes? Please don't
    tell me there are no such things as historic error codes. My Honda
    keeps them until either the memory overflows or is reset.
    Who said that normal users need them?
    Eric Stevens, Aug 21, 2012
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    Guest Guest

    that's not a logfile. all the codereader does is tell you what's wrong
    with the car in english (or give a code you have to look up if you
    didn't get the better model). there is no access to the internals of
    the car's computer nor is there raw data of the various sensors.

    there *might* be a history of some of the codes, but not necessarily.
    my car has no indication that the maf sensor was replaced. it gave a
    code, the sensor was replaced, the code was cleared and that's the end
    of that.

    still, that's very different than log files on a computer.

    most users don't need them at all and even technicians don't need them
    most of the time. they run diagnostic software which tells them what's
    Guest, Aug 21, 2012
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Historic error codes means e.g. there have been 8 occasions that the
    oxygen level has been too low in the left bank of cylinders etc. They
    don't just tell you what's wrong now: they can tell you what's been
    wrong in the past.
    .... but not necessarily not either.
    Nor does my old computer give any indication that drive C: was
    replaced. It just stopped logging random read errors.
    So you say.
    Works well with intermittent faults. :-(
    Eric Stevens, Aug 21, 2012
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    Whisky-dave Guest

    That's why Apple have Time Machine and why they sell their Time Capsules is it ?.

    What's the backup software that Windows 'pushes'
    Whisky-dave, Aug 21, 2012
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Aug 21, 2012
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    Well ...

    So you don't have vertical and certainly no cross compatability.
    Not even when staying with MS programs.

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Aug 21, 2012
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