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Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Liam O'Connor, Mar 10, 2014.

  1. Google maps works great, except there is one basic (therefore
    serious) flaw with Google Maps that Apple Maps has right
    (as does the Garmin Nuvi).

    You can't REPEAT the last spoken instruction on Google Maps!

    It's such a basic requirement of any automotive map program
    that I'm sure there MUST be a way to force Google Maps to
    repeat the last spoken direction. But I can't find it.

    By way of utterly stark contrast, in a Garmin Nuvi or on
    Apple Maps, all it takes is a single logical obvious button
    press on the next-turn arrow to make it repeat the last
    spoken direction (recalculated if you've moved since the
    last time it was spoken).

    The fact that Google Maps is totally missing this extremely
    basic capability, shows that even the venerable Google Maps
    is far from usable, as compared to a real Garmin Nuvi portable
    GPS device.
     
    Angelique Begnaud, Mar 14, 2014
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  2. Liam O'Connor

    Erilar Guest

    At 79 I don't jog. I stroll or plod :cool:. and I don't take my iPad, I take
    my dog.
    I play with maps sitting.Terrain. Don't kmow why I called it contour. I actually DO have an app for
    contour maps, however.
    It takes a minimum of three clicks, since it already takes 2-3 to find the
    bookmarks to find out IF Street View is available for a given starred
    location.
    Three or four instead of a pull-down menu.
    The new google maps requires multiple clicks for almost everything the
    original had pull-down menus for(or a corner click for Street View)
    Location. The old one let me correct the misses and save them as I pleased,
    either as easily-available bookmarks or in my Contacts.
    Location corrections.
     
    Erilar, Mar 14, 2014
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  3. Liam O'Connor

    Sandman Guest

    I am talking about Googles Map app, that has satellite and map view. The
    satellite view has an overlay of labels.
    I don't have the original iPad here in my office, but are you saying that
    it has four map views? Maps, Satellite, Hybrid and "Contour"? A quick
    google suggest that this is actually the case. I didn't know that (or had
    forgotten). Maybe because I don't find it a very useful feature. What do
    you use it for?
    But, the original comment wasn't about "decent, easy to use Street View for
    bookmarks", which is why I didn't include that in my steps. You have
    different methods to arrive at a location result, and getting to streetview
    from that is two clicks.
    BUt you also have to click to get to bookmarks on the original iPad, so you
    have to include those clicks as well. For Street View on a starred item in
    Google Maps:

    1. Click user icon
    2. Click on saved place
    3. Click on result
    4. Click on Street view

    Again, I don't have the original iPad here, but to my knowledge, you have:

    1. Click bookmarks menu
    2. Click bookmark
    3. Click on location
    4. Click street view

    Correct me if I'm wrong.
    While I don't remember this "corner click" you've talked about - I still
    don't see how the number of clicks are so substantially more in the new
    app - nor do I understand what the huge problem is if it were, the
    functions are still there.
    Yeah, ok, I see what you mean. And yes, that part is different.
     
    Sandman, Mar 14, 2014
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  4. I don't use Google Maps; I don't even have it installed. But the lack
    of that one feature doesn't make it "far from usable".
     
    Michelle Steiner, Mar 14, 2014
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    Lewis Guest

     
    Lewis, Mar 14, 2014
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    Michelle Steiner, Mar 14, 2014
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  7. Liam O'Connor

    Erilar Guest

     
    Erilar, Mar 15, 2014
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  8. Liam O'Connor

    Erilar Guest

     
    Erilar, Mar 15, 2014
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  9. Liam O'Connor

    Alan Browne Guest

     
    Alan Browne, Mar 15, 2014
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  10. Liam O'Connor

    Tony Cooper Guest

    I don't follow, Alan. I used my iPhone to direct me to an address
    recently. I didn't look at the screen at all. The voice told me when
    to turn.

    I actually knew how to get to the address, but I wanted to use the
    iPhone to see how it worked.
     
    Tony Cooper, Mar 15, 2014
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  11. Liam O'Connor

    Alan Browne Guest

    I like to see the display as it shows where I am relative to the route
    and what's around me; and I dislike the voice instructions. For that
    the TomTom (yech) that I have is fine mounted on my dash (not stuck to
    the windshield). It's at a just convenient distance from my right hand.
    It also does voice - but I have that off most of the time.

    This preference may come from my life long fondness for navigation, maps
    and so on.

    Even my old MS Streets with a GPS receiver had voice, but I didn't use
    it - used my driving partner to guide me (or v-v when she was driving).

    Another issue is that with the TomTom (yech) or Garmin, the entire map
    is in the unit, whereas with most smartphone map apps you need to have a
    good 3G or better data connection - which isn't always reliable or
    quick. (It's also limited to a region, say North America, which makes
    dragging it to Europe useless (unless you pay for those maps as well)).

    An iPhone or other smartphone has more than ample memory for a full
    street level map of North America - I'd prefer to download it. (Some
    paid for apps work this way). With my 32 GB iPhone, it could easily
    hold just about every street in the world...

    The later car GPS's have "free for the life of the product" map upgrades
    (supplier defines "life" of the product).
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 15, 2014
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  12. Liam O'Connor

    Savageduck Guest

    Yup! With the SatNav system in my E350, to enter a specific address,
    you have to be stationary and in *park*. However, you can while in
    motion, set a destination from several sources; Prior destinations, a
    POI directory, a preset user list in memory, or your contacts. It can
    even set a destination by entering a telephone number which exists in
    contacts, addresses in memory, or in phone contacts, via the dash
    numeric keypad while in motion. Just no entry of a physical address.
    Which is bizarre, as you have to use as much distracted attention to
    enter any of the "while in motion" permitted criteria.

    I guess that is to stop the driver from being a total idiot while in
    motion. It would be nice if there was a feature permitting passenger
    input.
    That is a feature that works quite well. I also find the route set up
    inMotionX GPS Drive pretty simple to use on iPhone or iPad.
     
    Savageduck, Mar 15, 2014
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  13. Liam O'Connor

    Savageduck Guest

    Fortunately the volume of the voice directions in my Mercedes can be
    adjusted to mute, independent of any other audio.
    ....but then you have to have a driving partner/navigator in that other
    seat. There are those of us who take the wheel solo. ;-)
    Both of my Mercedes E350's which had SatNav require the purchase of an
    update ROM to update the POI directory and any map
    changes/corrections/updates since initial installation.
     
    Savageduck, Mar 15, 2014
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  14. Liam O'Connor

    Alan Browne Guest

    That was then and applied esp. to vacation trips where having the "big
    view" (planning) was more important than the short sighted view of
    something like the TomTom (yech). (We used both on many trips).
    And how much did the fine folks at MB charge for that?


    --
    Those who have reduced our privacy, whether they are state
    or commercial actors, prefer that we do not reduce theirs.
    - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

    Privacy has become an essential personal chore that most
    people are not trained to perform.
    - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

    ... it may be that "in the cloud" really isn't the best term
    for the services these companies offer. What they really
    want is to have us "on the leash."
    -David Pogue, Scientific American, 2014.02
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 15, 2014
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  15. Liam O'Connor

    Savageduck Guest

    Too much for me to see the value. At least once a year (sometimes
    twice) they send me a reminder that I should keep that puppy up to date
    at $230 a pop. Needless to say I declined the offer.

    I have a feeling that since Mercedes is part of the iPhone/vehicle
    integration cartel along with Volvo, Ferrari, FIAT, and some others,
    that some of that pushing the SatNav update might soon fade.
     
    Savageduck, Mar 15, 2014
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  16. Liam O'Connor

    PeterN Guest

    I have an in car Nav system on the Caddy. It requires paid for map
    upgrading. However, After the first free year, I have to pay for the
    OnStar system to get voice directions, plus the cost of upgrading the map.

    For my Merc, Garmin, which is more than sufficient, except that I have
    to stop when i am looking for directions. I purposly bought the voice
    command version, which I should have returned because that extra feature
    was a total waste of money. I got screwed by an unknowledgable sales
    clerk.
     
    PeterN, Mar 15, 2014
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  17. Liam O'Connor

    PeterN Guest

    I had that same complaint about the Lexus, but I could always ask for
    directions from Lexus Enform. It was a very useful feature. I oculd ask
    them to find an Italian restaurant in ........., and they would do it.
    In the Caddy, I have to be very specific. The could not accommodate me
    when I wanted routing around traffic jams. (Actually the only reason we
    didn't get anouther Lexus, was that my wife wanted a color that they no
    longer made.
    Watchgonnado.
     
    PeterN, Mar 15, 2014
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  18. Liam O'Connor

    Alan Browne Guest

    I'd see updating that after perhaps 2 or 3 years. With my TomTom *yech*
    I held out about 3 years - and waited for a "special offer" before
    updating it. I haven't seen a special offer since then.

    My next add on GPS will be not TomTom *yech*(likely Garmin) and will
    have updates included for the life of the product.
    The day will come when such systems will use either public/open source
    data that is continuously and wirelessly updated (eg: you have the whole
    map, but changes are made continuously; or such maps will become
    certified (for safety, along with the nav system) and that for an annual
    fee you will get updates every month (week, day, whatever), again
    wirelessly.

    From what I've seen of OEM in-car nav systems to date, I'd never select
    the option. They all piss me off one way or another... the
    aforementioned or ugly displays or bizarre controls ... (not that the
    add ons are much better - but they do reflect their value in the price...).
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 15, 2014
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