Recommendation of sites/companies to make photo albums

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Steven Wandy, Dec 10, 2005.

  1. Steven Wandy

    Steven Wandy Guest

    My daughter recently got married and my wife and I are looking into either a
    company
    or an internet site to make up an album for ourselves.
    (1) Any recommendations of sites/companies you have used and been happy with
    the results?
    and
    (2) Our daughter was given a set of proofs and will receive a DVD with "high
    resolution files" of all the pictures. Assuming that I either scan the
    proofs or the files on the DVD are printable - will these online
    sites/companies make an album taken by a professional photographer? Would we
    have to get something in writing from the photographer giving permission?
    Thanks for any suggestions/advice
    Steve
     
    Steven Wandy, Dec 10, 2005
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  2. Steven Wandy

    Skip M Guest

    mypublisher.com
    We have actually gotten wedding albums done by them for clients. Pretty
    good quality for the price. I'm guessing that you're looking for what is
    called a "coffee table book," not just one of those traditional mat/page
    assembly books. The latter are available from local camera stores, and are
    fairly easy to find.
     
    Skip M, Dec 10, 2005
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  3. Steven Wandy

    UC Guest

    The photographer owns the copyright on the photos. The proofs are just
    for you to inspect.

    How cheap are you, anyway, asshole!
     
    UC, Dec 10, 2005
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  4. Steven Wandy

    Steven Wandy Guest

    The photographer owns the copyright on the photos. The proofs are just
    According to the contract they signed, our daughter and son-in-law - who is
    a newspaper photographer - interpret it to mean that the files on the DVD
    are printable. This would lead one
    to believe that the photographer is giving you the files with no limitations
    on what you can do with them. Maybe he considers his initial fee enough
    payment for his services.
    Thanks for your helpful opinion.
     
    Steven Wandy, Dec 10, 2005
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  5. Steven Wandy

    Steven Wandy Guest

    mypublisher.com
    Thanks for the suggestion. I have heard good things about them.
     
    Steven Wandy, Dec 10, 2005
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  6. Steven Wandy

    Sionnach Guest

    You don't seem to have much understanding of how many professional
    photographers handle sales nowadays.
    The OP has undoubtedly paid quite a bit for the DVD of high resolution
    files which they will recieve.

    Normally, when you purchase a CD or DVD with high resolution files from a
    photographer, the understanding is that you have the right to make as many
    prints as you like for personal use, including giving to others, as well as
    to put pictures up on personal web sites; the only thing normally prohibited
    is *selling* the prints, or otherwise profiting from the use of the files.

    How poor are your reading skills, that you completely missed the obvious,
    as stated above?
     
    Sionnach, Dec 10, 2005
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  7. Steven Wandy

    Skip M Guest

    Jeez, are you ever going to think before you spout?! If they have a DVD of
    "high resolution files," that goes along with permission to, and the
    expectation of, reproduce the images.
    That is why we a) don't give hard copy proofs, and b) sell our "digital
    negatives" for a considerable sum. We'll never see the client again.
     
    Skip M, Dec 10, 2005
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  8. Steven Wandy

    Skip M Guest

    UC, other wise known as "uranium committee," "Leicadict" and, more
    familiarly, "Mikey," is known for his helpful opinions and paucity of
    talent, patience and human understanding.
     
    Skip M, Dec 10, 2005
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  9. Steven Wandy

    zeitgeist Guest

    First, what suggestions and advice does the photographer have? If none, my
    experience has shown me that there are a lot of horrid logistical problems
    when a photographer evades all responcibility for the final product, the
    book. Usually it means the guy knows he's clueless and leaves the mess in
    even more unqualified hands.

    The most glaring problem, especially with 35mm and similar format shooters
    is that they compose images in the camera frame, not the typical print
    formats of 8x10. So many of the important images leaves the couple trying
    to figure out how to crop some of the full lengths of the two of them, hum,
    cut the bottom of the dress off...or you head. That difference between the
    4x6 and the 4x5 can ruin your day many times in a single day.

    The second problem is layout composition. A good traditionalist has enough
    experience to know if particular images should be shot with the subject
    facing left or right depending on how the image will fit in the album (which
    side of the page.) If that sounds anal, I've actually known photogs who
    could shoot a wedding with 3 backs on the camera, one each for 4x5, 5x7 and
    8x10 and could shoot and have the rolls printed to size and the album
    assembled from the images already in the proper size.

    amateurs just hand the couple a stack of proofs and/or a CD and say have a
    nice month trying to make some semblance of order of it all.

    Last month I posted a reply to a related question about album organizing, I
    think a key word was collaging.

    This is a link to a site that sells professional albums direct to the
    public.
    http://www.albumart.com/

    There are half dozen or so scrapbook printers that laser print a decent book
    and provide templates for as little as $20.

    For a high end book, a book that I like to say you can feel the money in
    your hands when you hold it, check out zookbinders, capri and
    leathercraftsman. For about 200 or so you can have a wonderful quality
    album that looks like the fine quality leathergoods you associate with
    purses and couches costing a couple thousand. Collage the images yourself
    and print out on photo paper, (2 buck 8x10s at costco) and send them and
    they will flush mount the images on the thick pages, gild the edges. a very
    classy presentation. 2 to 3 hundred sounds like a lot, but there is a bit
    of work going into them, and its just a bit more than those thick clunky
    tombs of heavy matted file hanger pages inserted into vinyl covers stuffed
    with chinese newspapers ala Art Leather and others, who cost so much cause
    they spend a lot advertising in all the bridal mages how wonderful they are.

    Another hi end and modern approach is Graphistudio. you send them the DVD
    and they will have graphic designers layout a coffee table book, with a
    package deal, big book for the bride, medium size for the parents, and a
    half dozen or mini books for purses and other family, expect to spend about
    a 1,000. you will have something that looks it.

    this reply is echoed to the z-prophoto mailing at yahoogroups.com where you
    can find a links section with a whole folder of links to bookmakers,
    wholesale outlets, and some retail vendors.
     
    zeitgeist, Dec 11, 2005
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  10. Steven Wandy

    Shawn Hirn Guest

    If you have a Mac with iPhoto 5, it just doesn't get any easier. iPhoto
    5 comes pre-installed on all consumer-level Macs and is a modest price
    for professional level Macs.

    With a Mac and iPhoto 5, you can produce near quality photo albums for a
    modest price with very little software expertise, especially if your
    photos have already been post-processed.

    A friend and I shot the photos at my sister's wedding last August. My
    friend used a Digital Rebel XT and I used an older Digital Rebel. We
    both used an external flash.

    We had plenty of duds, but we also had at least 300 excellent photos. My
    sister and her husband spent at least a month going through all the
    photos. I made about 200 of the photos available to my sister by using
    iPhoto's export to web feature so they could see them easily, sort of
    like an online proof sheet.

    At my request, my sister eventually emailed me a list of 100 image file
    names from my web site. I used those image files for the wedding albums.
    What took the most time, by far, was post-processing the images in
    Photoshop CS. Once that was done, designing a photo album for the
    newlyweds and another one for the parents was a snap. Both sets of
    parents are thrilled with the soft-cover albums I gave them. I used
    iPhoto 5 to produce two soft cover albums (one per set of parents) and a
    hard cover cloth bound album of nearly 100 pages for my sister and her
    husband, which they are very happy with.
     
    Shawn Hirn, Dec 11, 2005
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  11. Steven Wandy

    Scott W Guest

    There are any number of places that have refused to make prints from
    what look like profesional photographs, in many cases the person trying
    to get the prints took the photo themseleve.

    There are any number of places that have refused to make prints from
    what look like professional photographs, in many cases the person
    trying to get the prints took the photo themselves. If you have a
    contract giving you the rights to the photos I would simple have that
    on hand as proof of ownership.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Dec 11, 2005
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  12. Steven Wandy

    UC Guest

    Precisely.

    Any photographer who would sell the original files or negatives is a
    moron.
     
    UC, Dec 11, 2005
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  13. Steven Wandy

    pboch Guest

    My recommendation is get a divorce ASAP....

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  14. Steven Wandy

    q_dise Guest

    Hi, Steve,

    Wondering how does a Flash photo album of all her wedding images? I
    strongly recommend you use Wondershare Flash Slideshow
    Builder(www.flash-slide-show.com). I've used it a lot specifically for
    Flash movie photo galleries and it's extremely easy to use unlike
    regular Flash.

    Cheers
    Qdise
     
    q_dise, Dec 12, 2005
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  15. Steven Wandy

    Sionnach Guest

    Wrong. It's become a common procedure when shooting one-time events such
    as weddings or sports events - especially when shooting "on spec" at dog
    agility and horse competitions - and it's profitable, because your only
    outlay is for the media, which is very inexpensive.
     
    Sionnach, Dec 14, 2005
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  16. Steven Wandy

    UC Guest

    You give them your card, and sell prints. Never let go of the original
    negatives or files, I don't care how stupid OTHER photographers may
    be...
     
    UC, Dec 14, 2005
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  17. So you've got a wedding - you do the snaps, copyright the films and show
    them the pictures. What else do you really want with the negatives?
    You're probably never going to want/need them again except if the client
    wants reprints. (and they can bring the negatives themselves)
     
    bren[at]gillatt.org, Dec 14, 2005
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  18. Steven Wandy

    UC Guest

    Yeah, and they can ruin them, or take them to a place where you would
    never take them because the quality will be far less than you would
    accept. I've seen wedding customers take negatives into labs and write
    on them through the envelope!
     
    UC, Dec 14, 2005
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  19. Its not really your problem then is it? It's there photos they're
    destroying.
     
    bren[at]gillatt.org, Dec 14, 2005
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  20. Steven Wandy

    UC Guest

    That's the point. It's someone else's work they're destroying.
     
    UC, Dec 14, 2005
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