refill ink cartridges?

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by Bob Hansen, Feb 7, 2004.

  1. Bob Hansen

    Bob Hansen Guest

    Hi Group,
    Sorry if I'm a little off topic here, I didn't know where to turn. I'm
    thinking of starting to refill my ink cartridges instead of buying new. I'm
    getting less than 25 color prints before I get the warning the ink is low.
    My printer is a Canon i550. Any input will be appreciated.
    Bob
     
    Bob Hansen, Feb 7, 2004
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  2. Bob Hansen

    Tin Ear Guest

    I tried this for a while. I went back to factory cartridges because of
    quality control problems. I know others that have had good luck. I guess it
    just depends on what you are doing as a final product.

    I do send my cartridges in for recycling, however. The Post Office has free
    mailers for inkjet cartridges and my laser toners all have a prepaid UPS
    label included. I just drop the stuff in the mail box or UPS pick-up point.
     
    Tin Ear, Feb 7, 2004
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  3. Bob Hansen

    Dr. J. Smith Guest

    Where to turn:
    comp.periphs.printers

    For ink you might try...
    MIS: http://www.inksupply.com/
    Lyson: http://www.lyson.com/

    ~Doc
     
    Dr. J. Smith, Feb 7, 2004
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  4. Bob Hansen

    Stephan Guest

    Don't do it.
    You'll end up with clogged print heads and your prints are going to fade
    very very fast.

    Stephan
     
    Stephan, Feb 7, 2004
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  5. I have been refilling Epson cartridges for years with no problems
    other than messy hands and Epson are known for clogging problems, so
    don't believe dealers or others that would have you believe otherwise.
    Just make sure that the ink you buy is compatible with your printer.
    Some inks are pigmented based and some are dye based.
    On the other hand, I have both a Canon i550 and an i850 which both use
    the same cartridges. I'm amazed that you are running out of ink after
    25 prints as these printers use separate ink cartridges for each color
    and they are generous in their quantity of ink.

    Personally, I have no qualms about refilling cartridges, but I found a
    good source for cartridges at very, very good prices, which makes it
    feasible to do quantity printing without "breaking the bank".
    Try https://www.atlanticinkjet.com and go to the "ComboPak" deals for
    the best prices (NO, I am in no way affiliated with them). I am in
    Canada and with a 10% discount on top for referring a friend, I got 12
    cartridges delivered to my door with all shipping and taxes included
    for just under $72.00 Canadian funds. At about $6 CAN each for three
    of each color and three black, it isn't worth the time and hassle for
    me to refill, but you decide for yourself.
     
    Jack The Bear, Feb 7, 2004
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  6. Bob Hansen

    The Data Rat Guest

    I have ruined every Epson printer I have ever tried refilling the
    cartridges. I have had great luck with NCR brand refill cartridges and they
    are a lot cheaper. Actually, what I have found to be the most economical is
    taking my finished product on disk to Wal-Mart...can't beat the price.

    Suzi
     
    The Data Rat, Feb 8, 2004
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  7. Bob Hansen

    Hecate Guest

    Don't. As it happens I was just reading an article which included
    three different methods of doing this. None of the refills could match
    the quality of the manufacturers inks, or of proper replacements like
    Permajet (which actually cost more).
     
    Hecate, Feb 8, 2004
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  8. Bob Hansen

    Stephan Guest



    I never had a clogged printer head on my Epson.
    Sure you can find cheap ink, now how long does it take before your prints
    turn yellow?
    Here we go, now I see why you recommend them

    At about $6 CAN each for three
    Anyway you are probably going to be the only one recommending refilling and
    saving on inks.
    The OP will have plenty other sources to make his decision

    Stephan
     
    Stephan, Feb 8, 2004
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  9. Bob Hansen

    Tom Guest

    I have refilled the tanks on my S9000 literally hundreds of times. No
    problem. A five year old can do it with no difficulty.

    Tom
     
    Tom, Feb 8, 2004
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  10. Tom,

    I've got the same printer. What brand do you use? Any fading
    problems?

    Thanks,
     
    L. M. Rappaport, Feb 8, 2004
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  11. Bob Hansen

    Tom Guest


    I use the ink from www.ink-etc.com

    I have no financial interest in the company, just use their inks.

    Yes, the prints will fade if exposed to UV with no protection (no glass
    frame or not placed in an album in plastic sleeves). ALL dye based inkjet
    prints will fade. Do not listen to anyone telling you otherwise.

    We use them for wedding proofs only, in a binder in protective plastic
    sleeves. And we tell the customer EXACTLY how to get the longest life out
    of the proofs. We also tell them that they are *proofs* and will not last
    forever (hardly ANY print will last *forever* anyway).

    I have printed several thousands of 8x10 equivalent pages with our S9000
    supporting three photographers. Wore out one printhead but replacing it was
    just a matter of popping another in (THANK YOU Canon!). Now have printed
    thousands of additional pages with the new head. No problems.

    All our prints for regular bridal albums are printed on either Frontiers or
    Lambdas... Dye based inkjets are NEVER used to produce prints for sale (by
    us anyway), although one of our guys has an Epson 7600 and he sells the
    large prints from it. He still proofs on the Canon though because print
    material costs on the 7600 are horrendous compared to the Canon. But that
    is an apples and oranges comparison as the two printers are targeted at
    different output needs.

    Tom
     
    Tom, Feb 8, 2004
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  12. Bob Hansen

    Joe Guest

    You must be an experted by now!
     
    Joe, Feb 8, 2004
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  13. Bob Hansen

    Joe Guest

    I have been refilling my own ink cartridge for many years (on my very
    first ink jet printer). Now I am getting tired of refilling them so I use
    the CIS (Continuous Ink System) which works similar to refilling except it
    sucks ink from the bottles full of ink (outside of printer) to the modified
    ink cartridges. The only printer I still have to refill is HP PhotoSmart
    7350 cuz they don't have CIS for this printer.
     
    Joe, Feb 8, 2004
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  14. Bob Hansen

    Joe Guest

    If you print that many then you may want to look at the CIS like the link
    below

    http://www.weink.com/ecom/catalog/for_canon_324372_products.htm
    http://www.weink.com/ecom/catalog/for_epson_324373_products.htm

    There are about 3-4 companies selling CIS so shop around for the price
    from between $80-250 a pop (I paid $64 for mine from the link above and they
    seem to change the prices 1-2 weekly).
     
    Joe, Feb 8, 2004
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  15. Bob Hansen

    Tom Guest

    If you print that many then you may want to look at the CIS like the link
    below

    http://www.weink.com/ecom/catalog/for_canon_324372_products.htm
    http://www.weink.com/ecom/catalog/for_epson_324373_products.htm

    There are about 3-4 companies selling CIS so shop around for the price
    from between $80-250 a pop (I paid $64 for mine from the link above and they
    seem to change the prices 1-2 weekly).
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    Joe,

    We thought about that and it is a good idea.

    The only reason we have not gone to a CIS is that we keep expecting "Any Day
    Now" that the "perfect" replacement printer may come along and we will want
    to switch.

    If we could get the ink costs down, even the 7600 would be fine. Getting
    the UltraChrome inks through third parties seems impossible however, and
    without them, the HUNDREDS of Epson profiles out there would be useless. We
    would have to pay for individual profiles on each paper used and then if the
    third party supplier either changed their formulations or went under, we
    would have to do it all again. :(

    Anyway, as it looks now, that "perfect" printer just *may* be on the
    horizon... the new Epson 4000.

    We'll see.

    Tom
     
    Tom, Feb 8, 2004
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  16. Bob Hansen

    Bob Hansen Guest

    Thanks to all of you for your input. I noticed that my email address appears
    here. Doesn't seem like a good idea. Any ideas how I can prevent that?
    Bob

    I have been refilling my own ink cartridge for many years (on my very
    first ink jet printer). Now I am getting tired of refilling them so I use
    the CIS (Continuous Ink System) which works similar to refilling except it
    sucks ink from the bottles full of ink (outside of printer) to the modified
    ink cartridges. The only printer I still have to refill is HP PhotoSmart
    7350 cuz they don't have CIS for this printer.
     
    Bob Hansen, Feb 9, 2004
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  17. Bob Hansen

    Stephan Guest

    In Outlook Express go to tools,/ accounts / news, Highlight your account in
    the window / properties and enter a bogus address in E-mail address.
    You can also enter a fake address for return

    Stephan
     
    Stephan, Feb 9, 2004
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  18. Bob Hansen

    Bob Hansen Guest

    Thank you Stephan.

     
    Bob Hansen, Feb 9, 2004
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  19. Bob Hansen

    Joe Guest

    It's not a good idea to use real email address in Usenet, and you can go
    to setup to change it. I am not Outlook Xpress user to tell you exactly
    where, but I know for sure it has the option as I did it before.
     
    Joe, Feb 9, 2004
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  20. Bob Hansen

    Joe Guest

    I thought with thousands of prints then the CIS would save lot of time and
    money on the ink and refilling, and with the CIS you can use just about any
    kind of ink you want.
     
    Joe, Feb 9, 2004
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