Restoring color snapshots

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by Tony Cooper, Dec 2, 2005.

  1. Tony Cooper

    Tony Cooper Guest

    I've done some fairly good restorations of really old photographs, but
    color snapshot prints from the 60s and 70s are different. They're
    faded and have that yellowish cast.

    I've been using Curves and laboriously dicking around with each one,
    but I have a large project.

    Any suggestions on how to go about this?
     
    Tony Cooper, Dec 2, 2005
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    I should have mentioned that I scan the prints, so scanning settings
    would be included in my question.
     
    Tony Cooper, Dec 2, 2005
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    Mike Russell Guest

    The best color space for this is Lab. Make the a and b channels steeper to
    increase the color, and move the endpoints (usually the magenta end of the a
    curve) to compensate for the loss of magenta associated with faded prints.
    Then use the lightness curve to punch up the contrast.

    If all of your images are more or less equally faded, select an image with
    a well-known neutral object such as a white shirt, concrete sidewalk, thick
    clouds, etc as this provides a good reference for Photoshop's eyedropper
    sample - the a and b channels should be zero for a neutral. Save the
    resulting curve as a starting point for your other images.

    I'll be putting up a challenge image at the curvemeister site in the next
    several days and you'll be able to see how others deal with this issue.
     
    Mike Russell, Dec 2, 2005
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    Harry Limey Guest

    I suggest you join http://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/
    and post one of the images, the participants specialise in this sort of
    think and will do their uppermost to find the best solution!
     
    Harry Limey, Dec 2, 2005
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  5. Tony Cooper

    Tony Cooper Guest

    I put up a scan of four old prints from the late 60s/early 70s as an
    example at http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/oldpix.jpg
    The scans are unaltered, and just as they came off the scanner. They
    were scanned at 300 ppi on a rather old (as computer equipment goes)
    Microtek Scanmaster 4800 flatbed.

    I would not work on them as a group, but I wanted to give a
    representative sample of the problem.

    I'll post them to the flickr group later.
     
    Tony Cooper, Dec 2, 2005
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  6. Tony Cooper

    Tony Cooper Guest

    I posted the scan there, but what goes on. If there are comments or
    suggestions, how do I see/get them?
     
    Tony Cooper, Dec 2, 2005
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    Harry Limey Guest

    I checked for your photos there and no new threads have been posted!!
    I don't know if you have used Flickr before but it can be a little difficult
    for the first time user!!
    You need to open an account, and then upload your images (individually)
    having done that you then have to join whichever group you are interested in
    (there are hundreds of thousands) in this case Photo Restoration &
    Colorization Group
    Then you can start a new topic (you will need to open one or more of your
    uploaded pictures, click on the 'all sizes' link above the picture - then
    select a suitable medium size image and copy the html link under the image
    (not the url) then paste the html into the message field for a new topic,
    and state your objective - if you mess it up - no problem someone will tell
    you where you have gone wrong - most people have problems the first time!!!!

    About the images - I tried all four and got reasonable results on three of
    them just with curves!! but I cannot see a way to automate this as the
    images seem to vary quite a bit!
    Which of course is what you asked for!
    The links are
    http://static.flickr.com/6/69491960_8da283d134.jpg
    http://static.flickr.com/6/69491962_5b4d313048.jpg
    http://static.flickr.com/20/69491964_1da3c9042e.jpg
     
    Harry Limey, Dec 2, 2005
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  8. Tony Cooper

    Tony Cooper Guest

    OK...I thought I knew how to use Curves, but - obviously - I don't. I
    worked on just the top one (above) in Curves and didn't come close to
    what you have. Pointers on how you did this appreciated. In here or
    in email to .

    I don't mind you doing it in here if you think the rest of the group
    would benefit.

    It's not an action that I'm looking for, BTW. Just some steps to
    apply.
     
    Tony Cooper, Dec 3, 2005
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    Harry Limey Guest

    Tony
    I replied via the Flickr group as I am hoping some of them will
    participate!!
     
    Harry Limey, Dec 3, 2005
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    Mike Russell Guest

    I gave these a shot in Photoshop. Although I used Curvemeister, all of the
    operations can be done in Photoshop full version after converting to Lab
    mode.

    http://mike.russell-home.net/tmp/Restore 4Up/index.htm
     
    Mike Russell, Dec 6, 2005
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  11. Tony Cooper

    Tony Cooper Guest

    I've bookmarked the page, and will work with it later. Too many other
    things going on at the moment.

    I wanted to acknowledge the post, and thank you for it, since it's the
    first one that addresses the question with actual suggestions and
    steps.
     
    Tony Cooper, Dec 6, 2005
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    Voivod Guest

    Dear Fuckwit,

    The word 'binaries' appears no where in this group's name. This is
    because it is not a binaries group.
     
    Voivod, Dec 6, 2005
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  13. Tony Cooper

    Tony Cooper Guest

    I use Agent as a newsreader, and it does not open attachments. Thanks
    for the thought, but I can only see an image or file that you post if
    it's a link to a url.
     
    Tony Cooper, Dec 6, 2005
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    kctan Guest

    HEY MAN, what's this about and your offensive language??!!
     
    kctan, Dec 6, 2005
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    kctan Guest

    kctan, Dec 6, 2005
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    There have been several very attempts at restoring these pictures.
    I've come pretty close myself using Curves and the contrast setting.

    What I was really hoping for - and I think others might benefit from
    it - is more along the line of "how I did this" rather than "what I
    did".
     
    Tony Cooper, Dec 6, 2005
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    Harry Limey Guest

    I did actually put a step by step account of my method of using curves on
    Flickr!!
     
    Harry Limey, Dec 6, 2005
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    Scruff Guest

    I use more modern technology and I must say, you did a good job on those
    corrections.
    You should, however, take voivods advice.
     
    Scruff, Dec 7, 2005
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  19. Tony Cooper

    Tony Cooper Guest

    I only went as far as an MBA. I'm not smart enough to negotiate that
    Flickr site. When I bring it up, there's a comment from "occedid" and
    a reply from me. That's all.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/69458847/
     
    Tony Cooper, Dec 7, 2005
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    I not sure what advice you're referring to, but if it's from Voided,
    either it's (a) anatomically impossible, or (b) what he wants me to
    put where wouldn't fit.
     
    Tony Cooper, Dec 7, 2005
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