Rich which lens?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Trapper, Sep 24, 2005.

  1. Trapper

    Trapper Guest

    Rich

    Which lens would you buy if you had a Canon, rather than your Olympus point
    and shoot -which thinks its a DSLR: a Canon 10-22 or Sigma 10-20?

    Trapper
     
    Trapper, Sep 24, 2005
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  2. Why would anyone want an EF-S mount lens now that the 5D is out or for
    that matter before? Remember Canon make both FF and 1.3 size sensor
    bodies.
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    John A. Stovall, Sep 24, 2005
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    Skip M Guest

    Anybody who doesn't want to spend over $3000 for a camera?
    1.3x is dead in the water.
     
    Skip M, Sep 24, 2005
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  4. People who need the 8fps is who will buy 1.3 still. I you haven't
    noticed Canon has just put out the 1DMkIIN for people who want the
    fast frame rate and 1 series features. So 1.3 is not dead in the
    water yet.

    And I've spend over that on a 5D for the Full Frame because I want
    Super wides to really be super wides.

    Skippy, don't project your limitations on others.


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    my testimony. The events I have recorded should
    not be forgotten and must not be repeated."

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    John A. Stovall, Sep 24, 2005
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    Rich Guest

    I don't know. Which one is better?
    -Rich
     
    Rich, Sep 24, 2005
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    Skip M Guest

    According to a couple of interviews I've read with Canon execs, they fully
    expect the 1 series to merge into a single product line in the very near
    future, which would indicate a full frame, high speed camera, or one that is
    convertible, like the Nikon. That the 1D mkIIn is so little changed is, to
    me, an indicator of just that. They didn't exactly overextend themselves
    with R&D funds to produce it, did they?
    Those aren't my limitations, I've got 2 5Ds ordered, even as we speak. For
    the same reason you say you've spent "over that."
    And the only two people why call me Skippy are women in my life, are you
    saying you want to join them?
     
    Skip M, Sep 24, 2005
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    Stacey Guest

    Because not everyone can afford a $3500+ camera body?
     
    Stacey, Sep 25, 2005
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    Stacey Guest

    John A. Stovall wrote:


    Yet it's fine for you to project your lack of limitations on others? So when
    did the 10mm end of the APS lens on a 1.6 crop stop being a super wide?
     
    Stacey, Sep 25, 2005
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    Skip M Guest

    16mm has been considered superwide on 35mm film and full frame digital
    cameras. And, until the advent, recently, of lenses designed for cropped
    frame digital cameras, was close to as wide as you could get, at least in a
    zoom. And 14mm was as wide as you could get in a fixed focal length lens
    without going into fisheye territory, at least for Nikon and Canon SLRs.
     
    Skip M, Sep 25, 2005
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    Skip M Guest

    Watch it or John will get snippy with you, too. Cripes, it irritates me for
    guys to think that, just because they can afford to buy expensive stuff,
    anyone who doesn't follow their lead is stupid.
    But it really irritated me, in this case, because John assumed, since I
    disagreed with him, that I had some sort of limitation that was preventing
    me from buying the camera that he was. Not that I was simply stating a
    reason that someone might buy an EF-S lens and not be influenced by the
    impending existence of the 5D.
     
    Skip M, Sep 25, 2005
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  11. I'd buy a D2x, a 10.5mm and a 20mm Nikkor :)
     
    Jeroen Wenting, Sep 25, 2005
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    Alan Bremner Guest

    Whoopie for you. Amazingly, some of us don't have your budget.
    John, don't be so damn patronising.

    Al
     
    Alan Bremner, Sep 26, 2005
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    Drifter Guest

    I doubt that.
    Drifter
    "I've been here, I've been there..."
     
    Drifter, Sep 26, 2005
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    Stacey Guest

    Skip M wrote:


    Sure but NOW they do make a superwide zoom for the cropped sensor dSLR's
    and from the samples I've seen, perform quite well. For someone who is
    pretty sure they aren't going to drop $3000+ on a camera body, these APS
    wide zooms make a lot of sense
     
    Stacey, Sep 26, 2005
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    Skip M Guest

    Sure they do. But if you already have, say, a 16-35 f2.8L, it doesn't reach
    it's full potential on a 1.6x crop. And all of the new crop of digital
    specific WA zooms are slower than f2.8.
     
    Skip M, Sep 26, 2005
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    Skip M Guest

    Well, I have two reasons for saying that. One, there was an interview with
    a Canon Europe exec in a Spanish mag in which the exec said that they were
    going to consolidate to two sensor sizes. Which means that either 1.6 or
    1.3 goes away, since FF looks like it's here to stay, and the exec also
    confirmed that. With the intro of lenses specifically for 1.6x crop, and no
    support for 1.3x, I'd have to say that one is the lame duck. The intro of
    the new 1D mkIIn doesn't refute it, either. There's not a whole lot of R&D
    investment in that camera, is there? (By the way, that's reason no.2.)
     
    Skip M, Sep 26, 2005
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