Rotating Globe

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Jack Hayes, Apr 25, 2004.

  1. Jack Hayes

    Jack Hayes Guest

    Does anyone know were I can obtain a video of the earth rotating, any format
    would be OK.

    Jack
     
    Jack Hayes, Apr 25, 2004
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  2. Try http://tommyvideo.com/

    Gary Eickmeier
     
    Gary Eickmeier, Apr 26, 2004
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  3. I used one of the several available from NASA.
     
    Richard Crowley, Apr 26, 2004
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  4. Jack Hayes

    Speed Dialer Guest

    Does anyone know were I can obtain a video of the earth rotating, any
    format
    There is a small spinning globe in a ZIP file on Donald Graft's logo filter
    page..
    http://neuron2.net/index.html

    Don't know if it's big enough or the kind of quality you are after.
     
    Speed Dialer, Apr 26, 2004
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  5. Jack Hayes

    PTRAVEL Guest

    There is a website called, I think, Blue Marble, that is run either by or
    for NASA. They have a full-motion spinning earth available in HD and
    standard resolution AVI (they're very big files). You need to send them an
    email to get the download URL, but it's free and, as I recall, there are no
    special requirements for who can get it.
     
    PTRAVEL, Apr 26, 2004
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  6. Jack Hayes

    Rich Guest

    http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/BlueMarble/

    "This spectacular "blue marble" image is the most detailed true-color image
    of the entire Earth to date. Using a collection of satellite-based
    observations, scientists and visualizers stitched together months of
    observations of the land surface, oceans, sea ice, and clouds into a
    seamless, true-color mosaic of every square kilometer (.386 square mile) of
    our planet. These images are freely available to educators, scientists,
    museums, and the public. Preview images and links to full resolution
    versions-up to 21,600 pixels across"

    Don't think you can get much better than that. Variety of file formats
    available.

    Rich
     
    Rich, Apr 27, 2004
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  7. Jack Hayes

    PTRAVEL Guest

    That's it! Thanks for finding the URL. In addition to the animated
    rotating globe, there are excellent still photos at the site, as well as a
    flat map. I've created a nice "flyover" video effect with the map by
    stitching it end-to-end and then using the "Move" function in Premiere to
    create motion. I created a loopable clip that can be used for fly-over
    effects of any duration. If anyone would like to see some Blue Marble still
    photos animated and in action, go to my website at www.ruyitang.com and
    click on the India video. The "Travelers" opening logo uses two Blue Marble
    stills and the fly-over effect that I've described above.
     
    PTRAVEL, Apr 27, 2004
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  8. Jack Hayes

    Morrmar Guest

    effects of any duration. If anyone would like to see some Blue Marble
    still
    Marble

    Cool effect. Couldn't finish watching the video though, Indian music is
    too annoying for me. I also watched the Las Vegas video as my wife and I
    are going there to celebrate our anniversary in September. Gonna see our
    son as he'll be at Nellis then, hopefully. The video definitely got me
    in the mood, I can hear the cha-ching now!

    BTW, and I'm not trying to pick nits here, but unless the music on that
    video is yours, how can you copyright the video? I also use music in
    some of my videos but use it under the Fair Use clause. Just asking,
    please don't take offense, as I've been hammered by others for using
    music that I didn't compose and/or play myself and I'm pretty ignorant
    on the subject of copyright law.
     
    Morrmar, Apr 27, 2004
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  9. Jack Hayes

    PTRAVEL Guest

    Here's a tip: the games are all fixed so that the odds favor the casinos. ;)

    The music on the videos is either royalty-free purchased music, or, in the
    case of the India video, traditional Indian folk songs performed by local
    itinerent muscians that I personally recorded on location. I'm an
    intellectual property lawyer -- believe me, I'm very careful not infringe
    anyone's copyrights.

    Incidently, even when a portion of a work infringes another's copyright, it
    is still possible to obtain copyright protection in that portion which is
    the original, creative work of the author. That, however, isn't a factor
    for my videos.

    Honestly, I'd be very surprised if using recorded music in your videos would
    come within Fair Use. If the videos are strictly for home use then,
    perhaps, it would constitute Fair Use -- there is no case law on this to the
    best of my knowledge. I can't think of any non-personal application,
    however, that would come within Fair Use doctrine.
    No problem. I write on this topic on rec.video.product and www.dvinfo.net
    all the time. It's an issue and, unfortunately, misunderstood by many
    people.
     
    PTRAVEL, Apr 27, 2004
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  10. I loved the Indian music, and would have liked to have seen (ie
    visually!) more of the band. However, I am an international folk
    dancer, so i guess that makes me part of an elite but weird
    community :)

    Coincidentally, just two days ago I heard a woman from Ukraine on a
    local radio broadcast who sang and played what she called an "Indian
    harmonium". I believe the musician on the left was playing exactly
    that kind of instrument, so now I really know what one is. It's much
    better than the idea I got from the dictionary on Saturday. (It's
    the keyboard reed organ which the player was pumping with a board.
    It's attached to a bellows pump which is invisible in the video.)

    Gino
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Apr 27, 2004
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  11. Jack Hayes

    PTRAVEL Guest

    Thanks! There's music throughout the final release video, including a
    number of performances by local musicians and dancers. Indian music is
    probably an acquired taste, but I've found some of it to be quite enjoyable.
    Oddly enough, the song performed by the musicians in the desert sequences if
    evidently quite popular in that area, as a number of other groups were doing
    the same song.
    It's got a very small keyboard attached, probably no more than an octave or
    so. I was surprised by this instrument, because the keyboard is clearly a
    western invention -- it's well-tempered, i.e. it has the same layout and
    tone assignment as western pianos/organs/harpsichords.
     
    PTRAVEL, Apr 27, 2004
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  12. Jack Hayes

    Morrmar Guest

    BTW, and I'm not trying to pick nits here, but unless the music on
    that
    the

    Where did you get the music on the Las Vegas video? The royalty free
    music I've ever heard, and it's limited to Sonic Fire Pro and various
    websites, has pretty much sucked. Nothing like the music in your Las
    Vegas video.


    Here's what I put on my website, glommed of course, from another site:

    FAIR USE NOTICE


    This site contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not always
    been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such
    material available in our efforts to advance the understanding of
    political, economic and social justice issues. We believe this
    constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided
    for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17
    U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without
    profit and without any profit-making motive to those who have expressed
    a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and
    educational purposes. For more information go to:
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use
    copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go
    beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.



    Now I have no illusions that this would protect me in any way from legal
    action but since I use music, and video for that matter, to make
    political statements, I doubt anyone is gonna come after me. And if they
    did, I have a feeling I could just remove it and not get thrown in jail
    or pay a fine.
    In my case, ignorance truly is bliss.

    Thanks for the info.
     
    Morrmar, Apr 27, 2004
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  13. Jack Hayes

    PTRAVEL Guest

    Well, coincidently, it's SmartSound QuickTracks, which is a Sonic Fire Pro
    product. I've found the quality of their stuff to be pretty good if you're
    careful about matching up the music with the video. I've been struggling
    with a source for music for a Tuscany video I'm preparing. All the
    itinerant musicians were offering their own CDs, which raises copyright
    concerns. I've even though about using MIDI files of classical pieces, but
    it's too much work right now to actually produce the music (most of my audio
    equipment is in storage). I've decided that, at least for the next release,
    I'm going to use SmartSound.
    Copyright protection accrues upon fixation in a tangible medium, i.e. when
    music is written down or recorded. Folk songs are in the public domain, so
    the underlying music isn't protected. The performance _could_ be if it were
    fixed. However, by recording itinerant musicians, _I'm_ the only one doing
    the fixation, so it becomes my copyright.
    Well, I can't give you legal advice -- I'm not your lawyer and you're not my
    client, and nothing herein is intended, or actually creates, an
    attorney/client relationship. That said, " making such material available
    in our efforts to advance the understanding of political, economic and
    social justice issues" doesn't transmute infringement into fair use. First
    of all, fair use is a _defense_ to infringement, meaning, until you get
    sued, you won't know whether what you're doing is infringement or not.
    Next, it's an equitable doctrine, meaning judges decide it based on
    traditional concepts of fundamental fairness. Underlying these concepts is
    a basic principle embodied by Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, i.e.
    the copyright owner has ABSOLUTE control over the protected work -- he can
    limit, or even preclude entirely, any public performance, copying,
    derivative work preparation, etc.

    Whether YOU make a profit or not is not the signficant factor in determining
    fair use. Whether you hurt the market for the original, is. If you're
    distributing your videos, with music, over the internet, then you are almost
    certainly hurting the market for the original, which precludes a finding of
    fair use.

    Again, I haven't seen your website and I don't know what you're doing. It's
    possible that what you're doing is truly fair use. Honestly, though, I'd be
    very surprised.
    _IF_ they are truly (and primarily) political statements, you _may_ come
    within fair use. As for no one coming after you, I spend a fair part of my
    day writing cease and desist letters (and occassionally suing) relatively
    small time infringers because it makes good business sense for my clients to
    do so, e.g. it sends a message to potential infringers, it eliminates a
    potential dilution problem, etc.
    I wouldn't worry too much about being thrown in jail or paying a fine.
    However, as the kids who were sued by the RIAA found out, defending a
    copyright infringement action is an extremely expensive proposition.
    Statutory damages for non-criminal infringement run as high as $150,000 per
    infringement (not per copy), PLUS attorneys fees PLUS court costs. Your own
    costs of defense will almost certainly exceed $100,000.

    If you're a non-profit, you can almost certainly find an IP attorney in your
    area that would be happy to take a look and provide a non-infringement
    opinion. The opinion, alone, offers some degree of protection and precludes
    a finding of wilful infringement. He or she can also tell you whether
    you're over the line, or how close to the line you're coming. I'd seriously
    recommend that you talk with someone.
    Or not. ;) Forewarned is forearmed (but is eight warned an octopus?).

    Paul
     
    PTRAVEL, Apr 27, 2004
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  14. OK, how come I just get heiroglyphics when I try your links? How are you
    guys getting these clips to come in?

    Gary Eickmeier
     
    Gary Eickmeier, Apr 28, 2004
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  15. Jack Hayes

    Ed Anson Guest

    I had the same problem. It looks like the MIME information is missing or
    incorrect. However, I was able to download the clips and play them in
    Windows Media Player. [QuickTime is generally easier for me to play.]
     
    Ed Anson, Apr 28, 2004
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