rpe35mm Shoot-In favors digital?

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Mike Henley, Jun 22, 2004.

  1. Mike Henley

    Mike Henley Guest

    I'm finding the two weeks deadline a bit tight because i have to send
    my film to be processed and it'd come back in roughly a week and a
    half. This leaves me with half a week to shoot an image, which in
    realistic terms, considering i'm a hobbyist, really means an hour or
    two because i have other commitments. Of these there'd be travelling
    time etc... and the pressure to go out just specifically for the
    shoot-in.

    I think a month would be a good timeframe with perhaps a shoot-in
    starting every 2 weeks as they are now. This way there'd still be a
    shoot-in ending every two weeks but we'd have 4 weeks to meet the
    dealine. I think there'd be less of an reason to resort to the use of
    archival material and possibly, if not more participants, better
    quality of entries.
     
    Mike Henley, Jun 22, 2004
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  2. Mike Henley

    Matt Clara Guest


    Mike/Sabineellen,
    We've already changed the time frame from one to two weeks, and the
    consensus has been since that two weeks is plenty. By all means, use
    digital if that'll help you get the job done. Or, consider using a local
    one hour lab.


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    Regards,
    Matt Clara
    www.mattclara.com

    http://tinyurl.com/2g5c4
     
    Matt Clara, Jun 22, 2004
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  3. (Mike Henley) wrote in
    The SI is open to both digital and film shooters. The original timeframe
    was weekly, with a 9-day shooting span. A poll was conducted, and it was
    determined that biweekly would be the best. Monthly would have been way too
    slow...that was probably what killed the [SU] in the digital group.
     
    Richard Cockburn, Jun 23, 2004
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  4. Mike Henley

    Mike Henley Guest

    Ok since people voted, i guess i'll just have to oblige.

    I agree that a shooin that starts and ends monthly is too slow, but
    one that starts every two weeks though each ending in a month would
    effectively have the same rate, only be more accomodating. But anyhow.
     
    Mike Henley, Jun 23, 2004
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  5. Mike Henley

    The Dave© Guest

    How about if the SIs were to overlap, with the subjects for each one
    being announced 3-4 weeks in advance? That way, one could have more
    time to do their thing, but at the same time, there'd be a consistent
    product to keep people interested.
     
    The Dave©, Jun 23, 2004
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  6. Mike Henley

    The Dave© Guest

    Oh, wait, that's pretty much what you said. Ok. Nevermind.
     
    The Dave©, Jun 23, 2004
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  7. I actually suggested that to Lisa when the poll was going around. She was
    against the idea.
     
    Richard Cockburn, Jun 23, 2004
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  8. Yeah, you pretty much can't please everybody. We went with the
    majority, even though we should have learned our lesson about such things
    from the last presidential election here in the states... ;-)

    Lisa was against overlapping mandates/assignments, thinking this
    would sow a certain level of confusion, and this is entirely possible. Not
    sure myself, since the website can be set up with this in mind. People that
    can handle aperture settings can handle a couple of due dates. Maybe.
    Perhaps?

    But I'm in agreement that a month-long mandate period would slow down
    participation considerably, and like Richard suspect that was part of the
    problem with the Shoot-Up in RPD. Though there were also other factors.

    It has been suggested that you look at the one-hour labs nearby,
    which seems to be the best bet. I actually shoot two mandates on a roll
    most times, which means to make it in by deadline I was devoting only two
    days to one of them. Sometimes this was enough. Yet with the last mandate I
    was out several times in optimum conditions for what I had envisioned as my
    entry, and never got it anyway within the two-week period. I also saw very
    little else that would fit specifically within the mandate, which *I* had
    set up. That's why I get such a kick out of the non-participants who offer
    their judgement on the shots - it's quite a different story when you're
    actually trying it. That's the challenge ;-)

    Mike, I suspect you'll also be at the point soon enough where you'll
    be developing your own film, though to get the advantage of this you'd
    still need either an enlarger or a film scanner. But that's another option,
    and has its own fun aspects.

    Otherwise, don't sweat it. It's a friendly [I can't even call it
    'competition'] uh, undertaking and it doesn't reflect on photo skills too
    strongly. If all you can devote is a couple of days, fine - more of a
    challenge to rise to. If you're a day or so late, well, join the club. It
    seems to be growing ;-) But at least part of the idea is to take us out of
    our specialties [read: 'ruts'] and get us trying new things. Doesn't mean
    we'll be any good at them, but there's no client to make unhappy either.
    And maybe we'll learn something along the way.

    Like not dropping the disposable camera in the lagoon. Twice... ;-)


    - Al.
     
    Al Denelsbeck, Jun 24, 2004
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  9. Mike Henley

    Sabineellen Guest

    How about if the SIs were to overlap, with the subjects for each one
    Yeah that's exactly what i meant. They'd carry on starting with the same
    schedule as they are now, biweekly, only difference being that each would allow
    a 4 week window, which in effect would still mean that there'd be a shootin
    starting every two weeks and likewise ending every two weeks (after a once-only
    extension of a deadline from 2 to 4 weeks and then remaining on 4 weeks).

    I think it'd still keep people interested, it'd likely increase the quality of
    entries, and would make it easier to fit in the shootin into one's schedule and
    therefore more people could take part and there'd be less need to use archival
    images.
     
    Sabineellen, Jun 24, 2004
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  10. Mike Henley

    Sabineellen Guest

    Hi Al :)


    Without meaning to argue, I agree that a month is too long for the digital
    group, but that's digital, an instantaneous affair.

    As for the one hour lab, It'd significantly hike up the cost and effort of
    participating in the shootin if i make a biweekly habit of taking part in it,
    and i was hoping to. I was wishing to fit in into my current arrangements, but
    I understand that I'm a rather marginal latecomer and that the biweekly
    timeframe probably suits you guys better, which is okay, it just means that
    i'll probably have to use "archival" material, not that i have many to start
    with, or just hope i can make it in time without inconveniencing myself too
    much.

    BTW, i was thinking of getting the epson 4870 and developing my film if it
    makes sense, do you think it does? How do you suggest i start that? what kit do
    you recommend? i was looking at the jobo cpe-2 for color negative.
     
    Sabineellen, Jun 24, 2004
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  11. How about using a local lab? The local pro labs will turn around E-6
    in three hours (normal service), prints overnight. Or a one-hour lab
    for print film even faster.
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Jul 6, 2004
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  12. Mike Henley

    Sabineellen Guest

    How about using a local lab? The local pro labs will turn around E-6
    It costs several times that of a mail-in lab. It requires a trip or two for
    that purpose.
     
    Sabineellen, Jul 7, 2004
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  13. You complained about the time factor in your first message...now cost has
    entered into the equation.
     
    Buzz Chandler, Jul 7, 2004
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  14. Mike Henley

    Sabineellen Guest

    Yes of course, cost is what led to choosing a mail-in lab of good enough
    quality if i'm to shoot regularly.
     
    Sabineellen, Jul 7, 2004
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  15. Mike Henley

    Annika1980 Guest

    From: David Dyer-Bennet
    I can get two-hour service on my slides here locally. However, the great
    advantage of digital occurs when I'm out shooting with both the Totally Digital
    D60 and the Fabulous EOS-1V like I was today.
    I only took about 4 pics with the EOS-1V (Provia is expensive, ya know). I
    took over 100 shots with the D60 which I'm viewing right now. It may be a week
    or two before I shoot the rest of the slide roll and get it developed.

    As for print film? Fuhgettaboutit! It's dead.
    My little Epson 2200 killed it off.
     
    Annika1980, Jul 7, 2004
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  16. Went the opposite way for me. My scanner killed off slide film;
    anything done on film is print film now.
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Jul 7, 2004
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  17. Mike Henley

    Matt Clara Guest

    What's your reasoning? My 8000ED still turns out better slides than
    negatives--far, far less grain, at any rate.
     
    Matt Clara, Jul 7, 2004
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  18. Negatives have more range, by a lot. *And* in my experience (and
    everything I've read on the topic) scan a lot better. For slides you
    really need a drum scanner to get the range.
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Jul 7, 2004
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  19. Mike Henley

    Sabineellen Guest

    I can get two-hour service on my slides here locally. However, the great
    I had my first shooting day today with the 5.3mp HP 945 and I must say i was
    quite pleased. I really really would love to have the Olympus 8080 someday but
    i dislike proprietary batteries, especially now that those 2500mah AA batteries
    are on sale.

    I wouldn't say print film is dead though. It still has its applications. For
    street, nature (animals), macro, abstracts, journalism, sports... digital is
    clearly the way to go. For portrait, landscape, low light ... it's film.
     
    Sabineellen, Jul 7, 2004
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  20. Mike Henley

    Rich Pos Guest

    Same here. I'm pretty happy with the results, cost and convenience of
    using print film. My lab only processes the negs for me. A roll of 36
    is less than $2 and takes 1/2 an hour.

    RP©
     
    Rich Pos, Jul 7, 2004
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