rpe35mm Shoot-In favors digital?

I'm finding the two weeks deadline a bit tight because i have to send
my film to be processed and it'd come back in roughly a week and a
half. This leaves me with half a week to shoot an image, which in
realistic terms, considering i'm a hobbyist, really means an hour or
two because i have other commitments. Of these there'd be travelling
time etc... and the pressure to go out just specifically for the
shoot-in.

I think a month would be a good timeframe with perhaps a shoot-in
starting every 2 weeks as they are now. This way there'd still be a
shoot-in ending every two weeks but we'd have 4 weeks to meet the
dealine. I think there'd be less of an reason to resort to the use of
archival material and possibly, if not more participants, better
quality of entries.

 

Mike/Sabineellen,
We've already changed the time frame from one to two weeks, and the
consensus has been since that two weeks is plenty. By all means, use
digital if that'll help you get the job done. Or, consider using a local
one hour lab.


--
Regards,
Matt Clara
www.mattclara.com

http://tinyurl.com/2g5c4

 

(Mike Henley) wrote in

The SI is open to both digital and film shooters. The original timeframe
was weekly, with a 9-day shooting span. A poll was conducted, and it was
determined that biweekly would be the best. Monthly would have been way too
slow...that was probably what killed the [SU] in the digital group.

 

Ok since people voted, i guess i'll just have to oblige.

I agree that a shooin that starts and ends monthly is too slow, but
one that starts every two weeks though each ending in a month would
effectively have the same rate, only be more accomodating. But anyhow.

 

How about if the SIs were to overlap, with the subjects for each one
being announced 3-4 weeks in advance? That way, one could have more
time to do their thing, but at the same time, there'd be a consistent
product to keep people interested.

 

Oh, wait, that's pretty much what you said. Ok. Nevermind.

 

I actually suggested that to Lisa when the poll was going around. She was
against the idea.

 

Yeah, you pretty much can't please everybody. We went with the
majority, even though we should have learned our lesson about such things
from the last presidential election here in the states... ;-)

Lisa was against overlapping mandates/assignments, thinking this
would sow a certain level of confusion, and this is entirely possible. Not
sure myself, since the website can be set up with this in mind. People that
can handle aperture settings can handle a couple of due dates. Maybe.
Perhaps?

But I'm in agreement that a month-long mandate period would slow down
participation considerably, and like Richard suspect that was part of the
problem with the Shoot-Up in RPD. Though there were also other factors.

It has been suggested that you look at the one-hour labs nearby,
which seems to be the best bet. I actually shoot two mandates on a roll
most times, which means to make it in by deadline I was devoting only two
days to one of them. Sometimes this was enough. Yet with the last mandate I
was out several times in optimum conditions for what I had envisioned as my
entry, and never got it anyway within the two-week period. I also saw very
little else that would fit specifically within the mandate, which *I* had
set up. That's why I get such a kick out of the non-participants who offer
their judgement on the shots - it's quite a different story when you're
actually trying it. That's the challenge ;-)

Mike, I suspect you'll also be at the point soon enough where you'll
be developing your own film, though to get the advantage of this you'd
still need either an enlarger or a film scanner. But that's another option,
and has its own fun aspects.

Otherwise, don't sweat it. It's a friendly [I can't even call it
'competition'] uh, undertaking and it doesn't reflect on photo skills too
strongly. If all you can devote is a couple of days, fine - more of a
challenge to rise to. If you're a day or so late, well, join the club. It
seems to be growing ;-) But at least part of the idea is to take us out of
our specialties [read: 'ruts'] and get us trying new things. Doesn't mean
we'll be any good at them, but there's no client to make unhappy either.
And maybe we'll learn something along the way.

Like not dropping the disposable camera in the lagoon. Twice... ;-)


- Al.

 

How about if the SIs were to overlap, with the subjects for each one

Yeah that's exactly what i meant. They'd carry on starting with the same
schedule as they are now, biweekly, only difference being that each would allow
a 4 week window, which in effect would still mean that there'd be a shootin
starting every two weeks and likewise ending every two weeks (after a once-only
extension of a deadline from 2 to 4 weeks and then remaining on 4 weeks).

I think it'd still keep people interested, it'd likely increase the quality of
entries, and would make it easier to fit in the shootin into one's schedule and
therefore more people could take part and there'd be less need to use archival
images.

 

Hi Al


Without meaning to argue, I agree that a month is too long for the digital
group, but that's digital, an instantaneous affair.

As for the one hour lab, It'd significantly hike up the cost and effort of
participating in the shootin if i make a biweekly habit of taking part in it,
and i was hoping to. I was wishing to fit in into my current arrangements, but
I understand that I'm a rather marginal latecomer and that the biweekly
timeframe probably suits you guys better, which is okay, it just means that
i'll probably have to use "archival" material, not that i have many to start
with, or just hope i can make it in time without inconveniencing myself too
much.

BTW, i was thinking of getting the epson 4870 and developing my film if it
makes sense, do you think it does? How do you suggest i start that? what kit do
you recommend? i was looking at the jobo cpe-2 for color negative.

 

How about using a local lab? The local pro labs will turn around E-6
in three hours (normal service), prints overnight. Or a one-hour lab
for print film even faster.

 

How about using a local lab? The local pro labs will turn around E-6

It costs several times that of a mail-in lab. It requires a trip or two for
that purpose.

 

You complained about the time factor in your first message...now cost has
entered into the equation.

 

Yes of course, cost is what led to choosing a mail-in lab of good enough
quality if i'm to shoot regularly.

 

From: David Dyer-Bennet

I can get two-hour service on my slides here locally. However, the great
advantage of digital occurs when I'm out shooting with both the Totally Digital
D60 and the Fabulous EOS-1V like I was today.
I only took about 4 pics with the EOS-1V (Provia is expensive, ya know). I
took over 100 shots with the D60 which I'm viewing right now. It may be a week
or two before I shoot the rest of the slide roll and get it developed.

As for print film? Fuhgettaboutit! It's dead.
My little Epson 2200 killed it off.

 

Went the opposite way for me. My scanner killed off slide film;
anything done on film is print film now.

 

What's your reasoning? My 8000ED still turns out better slides than
negatives--far, far less grain, at any rate.

 

Negatives have more range, by a lot. *And* in my experience (and
everything I've read on the topic) scan a lot better. For slides you
really need a drum scanner to get the range.

 

I can get two-hour service on my slides here locally. However, the great

I had my first shooting day today with the 5.3mp HP 945 and I must say i was
quite pleased. I really really would love to have the Olympus 8080 someday but
i dislike proprietary batteries, especially now that those 2500mah AA batteries
are on sale.

I wouldn't say print film is dead though. It still has its applications. For
street, nature (animals), macro, abstracts, journalism, sports... digital is
clearly the way to go. For portrait, landscape, low light ... it's film.

 

Same here. I'm pretty happy with the results, cost and convenience of
using print film. My lab only processes the negs for me. A roll of 36
is less than $2 and takes 1/2 an hour.

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